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TMI Products Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2014 Posts: 744 Location: Corona, Ca
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:01 pm Post subject: Do you have to pull the engine fix a fan rattle? |
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figured since it was the hottest weekend of the year, no better time to see if the repairs made a difference . I put the fresh air bellows the correct way made 1/4" carb spacers and put new carb linkage. after a drive yesterday and a drive tonight in 100* heat, the carbs stopped the dripping after I shut it off and it ran great. The knock I thought I had sounds more like the fan,marbles as people say sorta in rhythm. I have another fan that came with the car that might be better or quieter.Can it be swapped in the car or will a noisy fan cause any damage if I leave it??? _________________ Mario De Leon
1965 Turbo Mustang Fastback
1966 Type 3 Fastback
VW Division Sales Manager
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eyetzr Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2013 Posts: 1425 Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, you will have to get rid of the marbles before you do extra damage. I dropped a bolt on my square coming back from California (way back when) & it smoothed out the back side of the fan. I will see if I still have it & shoot a picture for ya. The noise is probably the bolt that holds the housing to the motor has come out & is now trying to get out. Motor may have to come out to replace the fan, or if you have small hands you might be able to do it. _________________ I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done" |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22425 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Do you have to pull the engine fix a fan rattle? |
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TMI Products wrote: |
figured since it was the hottest weekend of the year, no better time to see if the repairs made a difference . I put the fresh air bellows the correct way made 1/4" carb spacers and put new carb linkage. after a drive yesterday and a drive tonight in 100* heat, the carbs stopped the dripping after I shut it off and it ran great. The knock I thought I had sounds more like the fan,marbles as people say sorta in rhythm. I have another fan that came with the car that might be better or quieter.Can it be swapped in the car or will a noisy fan cause any damage if I leave it??? |
It can be done in the car, but it's also a PIA to do so. Pulling the engine out makes it easier to see what you're doing, and be able to reach everything easier. You'll need a harmonic balancer removal tool, some M8 bolts (for the removal tool), 30mm socket, and some way to lock the engine (for both fan removal, and then for fan installation), as that bolt should be torqued to 93 to 105 ft lbs.
As for leaving it alone, and driving it, I don't recommend it. The screw head will wear the back of the fan off/thru, and could cause more problems down the road. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
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Chino_UK Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 159 Location: Manchester, UK
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TMI Products Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2014 Posts: 744 Location: Corona, Ca
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:10 am Post subject: |
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im assuming its the fan as any issues that come up are new to me. I do not see any movement in in the pulley and the noise will come and go, more so when its warm. _________________ Mario De Leon
1965 Turbo Mustang Fastback
1966 Type 3 Fastback
VW Division Sales Manager
[email protected]
TMI Products
1493 Bentley Dr.
Corona Ca, 92879
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eyetzr Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2013 Posts: 1425 Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:05 am Post subject: |
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My fan after my trip from California. I knew what was happening, but with out the proper tools & The Samba, it was a noisy drive. Funny thing it stopped, & when I looked at the motor, the bolt was hanging out the drain hole in the housing. _________________ I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done" |
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TMI Products Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2014 Posts: 744 Location: Corona, Ca
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:19 am Post subject: |
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eyetzr wrote: |
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My fan after my trip from California. I knew what was happening, but with out the proper tools & The Samba, it was a noisy drive. Funny thing it stopped, & when I looked at the motor, the bolt was hanging out the drain hole in the housing. |
mine doesn't sound to be rubbing as bad as that, its mainly at idle, slightly above and it goes away.. _________________ Mario De Leon
1965 Turbo Mustang Fastback
1966 Type 3 Fastback
VW Division Sales Manager
[email protected]
TMI Products
1493 Bentley Dr.
Corona Ca, 92879
1-800-624-7960
951-272-1584 FAX |
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Meanman Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2013 Posts: 11 Location: Maple Ridge,BC,Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Do you have to pull the engine fix a fan rattle? |
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its not required to remove the engine. Should only take a couple of hours to re&re the fan. You'll spend more time re&re the engine over just the fan itself. |
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Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 1941
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Do you have to pull the engine fix a fan rattle? |
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Meanman wrote: |
its not required to remove the engine. Should only take a couple of hours to re&re the fan. You'll spend more time re&re the engine over just the fan itself. |
I've done it also, it's simple. _________________
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blues90 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2009 Posts: 1912 Location: Hollywood ,CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Do you have to pull the engine fix a fan rattle? |
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I've done it engine in. It's just the bellows the tin cover , generator and removing the rear section of the fan housing. You need to remove the cooling flap rod and spring yet you can easily get the spring back on with a hooked tool . It's more work if you have the stock exhaust , if it's a header it's not bad.
The first time I still had the stock exhaust it was so rusted to the HE's I could not save it . I had to get a Empi quiet pack then it was easy. My noise was constant and not the fan so I went further thinking maybe the can gear rivets. I removed the entire fan housing to pull the oil pump and did it in one afternoon. Never did find what the noise was it was internal in the engine even though it ran great. One day it was not there the next there it was. |
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