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Tom O Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:16 pm Post subject: 1963 or 1976 |
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New to vw's. I have a choice of two vw's; a 1963 and a 1967. Which one to buy? They are both in good condition. |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Buy them both. Where are they located? Show some pictures. Each will have issues, one year only parts, more powerful or weak engine. It goes on and on. so just get both of them and the decide which one you want to keep. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Should I have potatoes or carrots for diner? Should I ask out the skinny chic or the fat chick? Should I wear black shoes or green shoes?
Basically the point is that these cars while being VW's are very different under the skin as well as in appearance. So it becomes a matter of preference and we can't help you decide which you like more.
Then it also depends on so many different aspects of the two cars. What shape are they in, how much are the sellers asking for each car? What comes with each one? How far away is each car? How cooperative is each seller being?
Again, you need to decide which one you like based on the circumstances. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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anthracitedub Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2007 Posts: 3241 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'd do the 63... |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'd do the 67 |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Don't take our word for it- you'll never get a consensus.
If you want 12 volts and big windows- get a '67. If you want a rolling sex symbol, oozing of man-ness that virtually guarantees your position in any position- get the '63. _________________
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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Joel Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2006 Posts: 11099 Location: NSW Australia
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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All depends what you want, the 63 will have more visual character but the later bugs are much nicer to drive _________________ Quick little bug, you got a Porsche motor in that?
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allsidius Samba Member
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79SuperVert Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 9758 Location: Elizabeth, NJ & La Isla Del Encanto
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:32 am Post subject: |
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hitest wrote: |
If you want a rolling sex symbol, oozing of man-ness that virtually guarantees your position in any position- get the '63. |
Exactly why I got my '62! _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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tb03830 Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2009 Posts: 1045 Location: Leavenworth, KS
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Go with the 1963. Less plastic and is little more valuable and a little more simple. I like the older modles better. I will never by a super bug or a 1968 or newer. _________________ "Sic Vic Pacem, Para bellum - Pray for peace, prepare for war."
1964 Convertible Bug - 1600cc SP engine with a stock H30/31 Carb and SVDA Distributor - Swing Arm Highway Flyer Tranny, Gene Berg's Temperature Dipstick, 2.5" drop spindles, 2" narrowed adjustable front end. Chromed OEM fan tower. |
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BerylGreen63 Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 392 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:26 am Post subject: |
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tb03830 wrote: |
Less plastic . |
Like what a heater knob and a defrost vent?
I would go with the 63 but i am biased. The 67 will have many single year parts that may be hard to locate or expensive. |
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payin_vw Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2012 Posts: 117 Location: Colorado USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Get the 63 _________________ 61 work in progress restoration, more work than progress actually. |
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VolkswagenVMan Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:02 am Post subject: |
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67's are cool cause they have one year only things. I have a 67 and its the last year of the old lines and charm. 63 is one of my fav years. As was posted , 67 rides somewhat better as they have the Z-bar on the rear to help keep the swing axle planted and 12 volt electrics. 63 has the smaller windows, straight vent windows, small front signals and small plate light. They are both good cars. _________________ Master Tech at Team Volkswagen
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1966 Bug early
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bdub475 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Depends on when in 67 it was made. My dads 67 looks exactly like a 68. It has 4 lug swing axle and the plastic dash pad.
Condition is the main factor. Myself i would be willing to do more work to a 63 if it were in not as good shape as the 67. |
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Rome Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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To the OP: Your title states "1976". But your first line states "1967".
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I have a choice of two vw's; a 1963 and a 1967 |
Which year is it really? There's a much bigger difference from a '76 to a '67 than from a '67 to a '63. |
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Joel Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2006 Posts: 11099 Location: NSW Australia
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:16 am Post subject: |
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bdub475 wrote: |
My dads 67 looks exactly like a 68. It has 4 lug swing axle and the plastic dash pad. |
It may have been assembled in late 67 but its classed as a 68.
Everything after July which is when they bring in new model changes is classed as next years model. _________________ Quick little bug, you got a Porsche motor in that?
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67jason Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2005 Posts: 4741 Location: behind my back feet - Pittsburg CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:46 am Post subject: |
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bdub475 wrote: |
Depends on when in 67 it was made. My dads 67 looks exactly like a 68. It has 4 lug swing axle and the plastic dash pad.
Condition is the main factor. Myself i would be willing to do more work to a 63 if it were in not as good shape as the 67. |
sorry what you are describing is not a 67. US 67 have 5 lugs and metal dash with no pad. euro 67's still have metal dash with no pad, but have 4 lugs and discs.
you are describing a 68 not a 67 model year. _________________ 67 bug x3
67 ghia
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shortride Samba Member
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Merlin Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:39 am Post subject: |
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VolkswagenVMan wrote: |
67's are cool cause they have one year only things. I have a 67 and its the last year of the old lines and charm. 63 is one of my fav years. As was posted , 67 rides somewhat better as they have the Z-bar on the rear to help keep the swing axle planted and 12 volt electrics. 63 has the smaller windows, straight vent windows, small front signals and small plate light. They are both good cars. |
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marklee Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:09 am Post subject: |
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67jason wrote: |
bdub475 wrote: |
Depends on when in 67 it was made. My dads 67 looks exactly like a 68. It has 4 lug swing axle and the plastic dash pad.
Condition is the main factor. Myself i would be willing to do more work to a 63 if it were in not as good shape as the 67. |
sorry what you are describing is not a 67. US 67 have 5 lugs and metal dash with no pad. euro 67's still have metal dash with no pad, but have 4 lugs and discs.
you are describing a 68 not a 67 model year. |
Euro 67s came as follows,
1200 Sparkafer, the base no frills model
1300 de luxe, more trim bigger engine
both the above had 5 lug wheels and drum brakes
1500, the HOT VW with 4 lug wheels and front disc brakes. All had blade bumpers and sloping headlamps, no dash pad but a variety of chrome and trim fitments and colour.
The US only tended to get the larger engine top spec models, ie in 66 just the 1300 in 67 just the 1500... _________________ CGLI qualified body repair and refinish tech
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