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67dragbug Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2007 Posts: 132 Location: Rockwell, NC
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:06 am Post subject: Strange Clutch Issues...Need Help! |
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I have a 62 beetle that I just bought not too long ago. The PO did a "restore" and did a crappy job putting it back together. It runs and drives good, it is 12 volt, 1600DP engine, I don't know much of the history on the car other than that. When its cold the clutch feels fine. Good pedal, engages good, doesn't slip, etc. After I drive it for awhile, sometimes 10 minutes sometimes 30 minutes, the clutch goes to crap. When I push it in to stop, in disengages fine then when I'm sitting still, I go to take off and let up on the pedal and nothing. It does not engage and it does not go anywhere, 1st or reverse. If I push the pedal again it feels very very soft and spongy with very little resistance on the pedal at all. Sometimes if I work the pedal a little it will come back and work fine, other times I have to rev the engine pretty high to get it to engage or release the pedal really fast, sometimes while revving the engine. Then it gets worse from there, even happening when I change gears going down the road. I was able to get it home and I adjusted the cable but it did not help. The bowden tube looks ok, it maybe could use a little more sag in it, but it is there. What could possibly be causing this? Do I need to pull the engine and inspect? Its just very strange that it works great when cold. Any help is very much appreciated! |
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:15 am Post subject: |
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I'd suspect the pressure plate is hanging up so probably time to pull the engine _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
tasb wrote: |
I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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sb001 wrote: |
maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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HRVW Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2011 Posts: 2531 Location: Rosarito, Mexico
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Engine Oil or trans grease on the disc will slip after warming up causing trhe engine to rev up easy and car not moving.
(VW mechanic retired) |
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67dragbug Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2007 Posts: 132 Location: Rockwell, NC
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies. I am leaning toward the pressure plate also, only because the pedal feels so soft when it is acting up. Is there a spring on the throwout bearing or anywhere that could be causing the problem? I'm at a loss, guess its time to pull the engine and inspect. |
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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You may find the cross shaft in the bell housing is binding or frozen on it's bushings.
Some one may have tried to adapt a late model TO bearing and guide sleeve and got it wrong.
It may have received a Korean clutch pack which does not tolerate over extending the clutch much past the disengage point before it grabs the clutch disc by the pressure plate ring with dastardly results.
SO- as mentioned- might need to drop that motor and take a look.- PS- don't get a $60 clutch kit.- _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
opinion untempered by fact is ignorance.
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67dragbug Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2007 Posts: 132 Location: Rockwell, NC
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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So I finally got the engine pulled out and I don't see anything obvious. Here are pics of the clutch, pp, tranny and flywheel. Anyone see anything that looks off that could be causing my problems? Again its a 1600DP in a 62 beetle. Is this the wrong pressure plate and throw out bearing combo? I am stumped. Works great till it warms up then goes to crap. Clutch disc looks good and seems dry. Any ideas? Thanks!
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grandpa pete Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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