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skabonner Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2009 Posts: 854 Location: La Habra, Ca
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:07 pm Post subject: Need advice on selling my '67 |
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So I've had this beetle for a few years and now its time to move on, as much as it pains me. The thing is I am not getting very many bites, and its been up for a few months. So I thought I would ask you guys, am I ask too much, and should I do something to it to make it more desirable? I.e. Lower it, patina it, etc.
I bought it for $4250 a few years back, and it seems that beetle values have gone up, plus I've put about $4000 into it, plus all my time. Not that I'm expecting to get all that back, I'd just like to think I've increased the value.
P.s. I've also tried cl, ebay, and have taken it to one or two shows around here in so cal.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1684015 _________________
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pb_foots Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2010 Posts: 1089 Location: Ben Lomond, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Nice looking car, I'm surprised you haven't gotten any bites at 5K. If I was in the market it would make the short list.
Please don't 'patina' that car. There's enough rusty pieces of crap around already.
Maybe autotrader? or whatever they call the version for older cars. |
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skabonner Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2009 Posts: 854 Location: La Habra, Ca
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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pb_foots wrote: |
Nice looking car, I'm surprised you haven't gotten any bites at 5K. If I was in the market it would make the short list.
Please don't 'patina' that car. There's enough rusty pieces of crap around already.
Maybe autotrader? or whatever they call the version for older cars. |
Lol, I just don't know what's left to do. I keep getting low ball offers. _________________
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'67 Beetle "Ilsa"
'06 Gti "Heidi" |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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So whatever it takes, put 5 lug wheels on it and over-rider bumpers- those are two of the core essences of '67 beetles (rims are $10 each anywhere). White paint is a hard sell on that car without a sunroof- because of course, sunroof cars sell in any color- nothing to do there. Ditch the 80s-ish chrome thingies on the engine- especially the coiled wire and air cleaner- cause it looks like kids have been playing in there in today's terms ($20 max anywhere for an air-cleaner). Plan on $4000 once those items are addressed- because lest we forget- you are still in California- where that car is duplicated all over town for $3500. I'm being honest here.
I don't think playing the R.K. Smith card is helping that car. He's into the entire custom car scene, not just VWs- and everyone knows it. _________________
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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I do not get the 4 bolt on the wide five car especially a 67. Agree with the over riders. Ad them back. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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skabonner Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2009 Posts: 854 Location: La Habra, Ca
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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hitest wrote: |
So whatever it takes, put 5 lug wheels on it and over-rider bumpers- those are two of the core essences of '67 beetles (rims are $10 each anywhere). White paint is a hard sell on that car without a sunroof- because of course, sunroof cars sell in any color- nothing to do there. Ditch the 80s-ish chrome thingies on the engine- especially the coiled wire and air cleaner- cause it looks like kids have been playing in there in today's terms ($20 max anywhere for an air-cleaner). Plan on $4000 once those items are addressed- because lest we forget- you are still in California- where that car is duplicated all over town for $3500. I'm being honest here.
I don't think playing the R.K. Smith card is helping that car. He's into the entire custom car scene, not just VWs- and everyone knows it. |
Hmm, I can deal with some of that. I can definitely clean up the engine bay, and put over riders on it. 5 lug is a little trickier, as I have discs up front, and as far as I know it would be much more complicated then buying new rotors, and wheels, but something to think about. I wasn't really trying to play off his card, I just thought it was interesting history, you know? _________________
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'67 Beetle "Ilsa"
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WD-40 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2006 Posts: 1178 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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skabonner wrote: |
The thing is I am not getting very many bites, and its been up for a few months. So I thought I would ask you guys, am I ask too much, and should I do something to it to make it more desirable? I.e. Lower it, patina it, etc. |
skabonner wrote: |
Lol, I just don't know what's left to do. I keep getting low ball offers. |
It'a a mix of the car and the ad, but mostly the ad I bet. The few bites and lowball offers are related.
Do you want some feedback on the ad? (Serious question, some people just want sympathy and get pretty upset if you critique their work. ) _________________ "The new Volkswagen 1303. We've made so many improvements, they're beginning to show." |
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skabonner Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2009 Posts: 854 Location: La Habra, Ca
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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WD-40 wrote: |
skabonner wrote: |
The thing is I am not getting very many bites, and its been up for a few months. So I thought I would ask you guys, am I ask too much, and should I do something to it to make it more desirable? I.e. Lower it, patina it, etc. |
skabonner wrote: |
Lol, I just don't know what's left to do. I keep getting low ball offers. |
It'a a mix of the car and the ad, but mostly the ad I bet. The few bites and lowball offers are related.
Do you want some feedback on the ad? (Serious question, some people just want sympathy and get pretty upset if you critique their work. ) |
Lol, I get you. I would love some feedback on the ad. I'm in college, and this is the first time I've had to sell a car, so be a bit harsh, I don't mind. _________________
Douglas Adams wrote: |
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'67 Beetle "Ilsa"
'06 Gti "Heidi" |
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shortride Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2010 Posts: 1323 Location: Oklahoma
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cyclehobby Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2013 Posts: 156 Location: North Jersey
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Very nice car. Being from the east coast, I would think you'd have little problem getting $5K for it, but I guess it could be that in California, there are simply more good examples to choose from.
As others stated, if I was in the market (and not all the way over here in NJ!!) I'd consider it seriously for $5K.
Good luck. I hope you get your price. _________________ 1967 Beetle
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grandpa pete Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:17 am Post subject: |
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As an old guy I interpret " fun to drive " and " racey " as some kid has been hotrodding this.....Take the Fin off . Another " race car driver " indicator
67 is a unique year for the restoration buff...If I want a hotrod There are many others out there
NOTE ; there are more " old guys " with $5000 for a toy than college kids
My 2 cents _________________ 63 two fold rag
66 sedan delivery Type 6
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569619&highlight=sedan+delivery
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shortride Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2010 Posts: 1323 Location: Oklahoma
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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Simplify the text in your ad..it doesn't matter that its owned by a mechanic or was owned by an ex hot vw's writer..eliminate all the negative stuff too,you want to draw a buyer in,not chase him away...so stuff like "its a 10 ft car" needs to go...same with the overheat tag...now he thinks it might run hot..just go simple and positive with the text... once you have someone looking at it,roll out the hot vw's/mechanic angle,that kinda stuff can close a deal once the fish is on the line..but do it verbally when the fish is gazing at the car with that glazed donut look on his face |
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Joey Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5366 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:57 am Post subject: |
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hitest wrote: |
Ditch the 80s-ish chrome thingies on the engine- especially the coiled wire |
I don't get the coiled condenser wire thing... if it's too long cut and crimp on a new connector... _________________ Joey
‘60 Kombi - '74 Bus - '79 Panel - '65 Beetle |
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6Kabrio7 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2006 Posts: 2387 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure the dash being cut doesn't help. If you're selling it though it's probably not worth fixing at this point. _________________ 67 Convertible July 67 Yukon Yellow
67 Sedan May 67 Zenith blue |
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skabonner Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2009 Posts: 854 Location: La Habra, Ca
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Joey wrote: |
hitest wrote: |
Ditch the 80s-ish chrome thingies on the engine- especially the coiled wire |
I don't get the coiled condenser wire thing... if it's too long cut and crimp on a new connector... |
Lol, something my dad does, I guess I picked it up from him.
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I'm sure the dash being cut doesn't help. If you're selling it though it's probably not worth fixing at this point |
Yeah, I've got the piece to fix it, I just don't want to go through the hassle. I bought this when I was just out of high school, and a bit more impatient than I am now, so I didn't mind the dash.
I'm am gonna fix the things I can and update the ad in the next couple of days. Thanks for all the suggestions guys this has been very helpful. Keep the suggestions coming, the more the better. _________________
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'67 Beetle "Ilsa"
'06 Gti "Heidi" |
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9pin Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2012 Posts: 126 Location: Minneapolis
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Like the others, I would definitely bite if it had nice stock wheels and a more stock-looking engine. Lose the rear fin for sure, but I don't mind the euro bumpers and fog lamps. I think that adds just enough old-world, tasteful uniqueness. _________________ Yet another person with a '66 project: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=526418 |
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pb_foots Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2010 Posts: 1089 Location: Ben Lomond, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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isn't that a Herrod helper wing?
I might remove it, but keep it in the trunk. IIRC, they actually work to improve aerodynamics. |
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wardvwracer Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2002 Posts: 489 Location: De Pere, WI
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Just my $.02...
Wheels make the car. I understand you have front disc brakes which changes the rims to 4-lug. Maybe put some Empi 4-lug sprints on the car (the aftermarket aluminum ones). If your rear drums are 4-lug too, you're all set. If not, converting the rear drums to 4 lug is simple.
You might have to drop about $400 in the new rims, but re-use your tires and it will make a big difference in the appearance.
FWIW, your price seems decent to me. _________________ David Ward
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skabonner Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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pb_foots wrote: |
isn't that a Herrod helper wing?
I might remove it, but keep it in the trunk. IIRC, they actually work to improve aerodynamics. |
Yep, I guess I will just sell that one by itself. Its original though, found it in a pick a part for $10
I will have to consider new rims. As much as I love those Dan gurneys, I know they aren't everyones cup a tea, and they are a bit worn out. Probably end up going with the sprints, though they are making repro cosmics now. _________________
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'67 Beetle "Ilsa"
'06 Gti "Heidi" |
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