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gimmesomeshelter
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:57 pm    Post subject: Low friction generator? Reply with quote

I was reading how someone gained 3HP at 4000 RPM by replacing a 28 blade fan with an early 16 blade model. I suspect our generators also eat up a lot of precious horsepower. Has anyone tried installing ceramic bearings in their generator? If so, did it make a difference?

Cheers,

Paul
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't tried it but I like the way you think.

reducing the contact surface area of the brushes should be good for 0.0002mph on the salt. Laughing

treuhaft did a aluminium fan in the 80's, I think it was a 28 blade though.

fan design seems to me to be an area with good potential for bolt on hp savings on all t1 motors, I wish I had the engineering knowledge and funds to design one that worked and get it on the market.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Low friction generator? Reply with quote

gimmesomeshelter wrote:
I was reading how someone gained 3HP at 4000 RPM by replacing a 28 blade fan with an early 16 blade model. I suspect our generators also eat up a lot of precious horsepower. Has anyone tried installing ceramic bearings in their generator? If so, did it make a difference?

Cheers,

Paul


8 blades--Porsche did this.

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I think disabling the charging system by disconnecting the field (DF) wire would help more than slippery generator bearings.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 16 blade has also better cooling.
i did once 3 bearings in the generator instead of 2 and it sucked energy.
but i would not go with other bearings.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wouldn't you get the same effects with a smaller bottom pulley?
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