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vwt14 Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2014 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:46 pm Post subject: Starter Bushing Replacement |
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Hello everyone,
I am sure this has been covered many times and may be a really stupid question but how do I replace the starter bushing? All I can find are how to remove the old one, which I have already got out. The new bushing is quite a bit thicker than the old one. I thought you would just tap a new one in with a hammer but it looks way to large (thickness of metal) for the new one to fit. Sorry if this has be covered, I couldn't find what I was looking for.
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Joey Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5366 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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You need to provide more information.
Like what year is your transmission. Is your starter to be 6 volt or 12 volt, and what was the starter before? _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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vwt14 Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2014 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies guys. Sorry to be so vague. So I am replacing my starter on a 1973 Beetle, 12 volt. I ordered a Euromax starter from Cip1. The starter comes with a bushing included. I am only doing a direct replacement, not installing a high torque or autostick starter or anything like that. The old bushing if I go to install it again, fits just snugly in the hole and could be easily tapped into the transmission. The new bushing appears to have slightly thicker walls and is slightly larger in diameter and does not appear to even come close to being able to tap the bushing in. Does this make sense?
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caffeinebean Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2013 Posts: 234 Location: Menifee, CA (92584)
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Use the old one. |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, don't get another bushing.
Send the Euromax back and pay the extra money for a rebuilt Bosch auto-stik starter. No bushing is required
Also, the starter has more power.
Tim |
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Joey Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5366 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Take Tim Donahoe's advice - Euromax's stuff is pretty crappy... _________________ Joey
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flyboat Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2010 Posts: 2752 Location: Bath NC
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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I went to a self supporting starter like the ones used in the type 3 engine setups. No worries ever since. No bushings needed. Later, I switched to the Hi Torque unit which is the same fitment as the non supporting starter _________________ 79 super Vert
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jlex Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2009 Posts: 2902 Location: NW Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:30 am Post subject: |
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You need to take the new bushing to the grinding wheel (or file) and chamfer the leading edge. Put just a slight bevel on that edge, and no further than the edge. That'll be enough to get it started in straight, then just tap it in the rest of the way. Don't forget to lube the inside of it before installing the starter. _________________ jlex.
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scrivyscriv Samba Electrician
Joined: October 04, 2011 Posts: 2922 Location: Memphis
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Too big = too big. Don't try to install the bearing, you might crack your transmission case.
Best option is to get a replacement bearing.. If you have the tools, measure ID of the bearing hole, OD of the old bearing, OD of new bearing, and see what you come up with. _________________ Robert in Memphis
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Engine rebuild thread
If you're ever in the Memphis area, you are welcome to stop by for advice and help. |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing Replacement |
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If you use the auto stick stsrter , do you take the old bushing out? Or do you leave the old bushing in and just remove and replace the starter? |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing Replacement |
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Leave the old bushing where it is. It doesn't interfere with the auto-stick in any respect.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
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andrewvwclassic Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2012 Posts: 920 Location: los angeles
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing Replacement |
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get a dial caliper and take off a few thousanths with sand paper. you have the old one to measure against leave some extra for fitment. I haave done this to valve guides. Never let a bushing get the better of you and stop you from getting a part installed. will make you second guess every decision you have made until that point. |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing Replacement |
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Tim Donahoe wrote: |
Leave the old bushing where it is. It doesn't interfere with the auto-stick in any respect.
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Seems like a no brainer to just use an autonstick starter, or am I missing something? Why would anyone go through the trouble of replacing that bushing and using a regular starter unless the engine was out? |
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andrewvwclassic Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2012 Posts: 920 Location: los angeles
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing Replacement |
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usually because people feel confortable with the knowledge thet already have with a part, how long it last, what to worry about going bad, needing to change ect. ect.. Keeping a stock style is also a concern as well as reliance on more complicated or les complecated poor quality parts. Who cares. I always liked the bushing it makes the port serve a second purpouse other than easy access. |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing Replacement |
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The Bosch auto-stick starter is a stock part.
I got a Bosch auto-stick starter a few years back. No problems whatsoever. Easy to put in, too. No bushing worries at all.
The only reason I can think of why most owners don't install the auto-stick starter is because it costs more money than a regular starter.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:36 am Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing Replacement |
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Where did you buy your starter? |
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johneliot Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 2189 Location: Chico, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Starter Bushing Replacement |
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John at aircooled has one. _________________ John
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