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johan81 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:14 pm Post subject: A value thread - Values on Split Beetle parts? |
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Is there a thread that you can ask some opinions
about value on parts?
Because you cant search old/sold items. _________________ 52 bug
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johan81 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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I can start.
I have a realy nice sho semaphore dated 5/3 it needs a new spring i guess its the name for it.
Otherwise a realy nice bourdux red original semaphore.
Restored it listed at 1200 dollars a pair.
So how much can you take for a nice original semaphore?
Best offer would maybe be the best way to go but what do you Think?
Im planning to by and restore some parts to my 52 so i need to sell some parts that i dont need to finace the other parts.
4-5-600?
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9363 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:16 am Post subject: |
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I have been buying, restoring and selling ribbed and grooved semaphores for many years, and in my opinion that sem's value range is probably $200-$450.
I say "range" because the market of course depends on the buyer. $200 would be a pretty good deal, I'd snap it up for that. $450 is near the edge of it being not worth restoring with restored sets being $1200-$1400 depending on original parts, date codes, numbering, etc. And a restored single usually is not worth exactly half of a restored pair.
The good is that it is pretty complete, and an SHO grooved which are worth a bit more than the SWFs.
Unfortunately the bad is also that it is an SHO as they are quite a bit harder to restore. This one also is a "late" SHO with the 3x3 number, not the L number.
Of course I look at every semaphore as a restoration candidate. If someone had a mid-year '53 oval, had one SHO sem for it in about the same shape as this one, and was looking for another, this would be a find. The spring could be replaced in it without restoring it, but you have to drill the pin out and replace it to do so. _________________ John Henry
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johan81 Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2006 Posts: 163 Location: sweden
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info john realy good info.
And I understand that you se the prices + a complete restoration.
But as you say a realy nice unrestored semaphor makes me smile a bit more.
I have a cople swf split semaphores to but not as nice as this one. _________________ 52 bug
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johan81 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Then it should be chestnut brown if I look at the coulors 53? _________________ 52 bug
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johan81 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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And how about 25hp fuelpumps.
I saw in classifields today a zwitter fuelpump for 400.
Is that normal for 25hp fuelpumps? _________________ 52 bug
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johan81 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Is it only me thst doesent know the value for split parts
And how about engin cases.
I have many more cuestions. _________________ 52 bug
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usariemen Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1745 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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johan81 wrote: |
And how about 25hp fuelpumps.
I saw in classifields today a zwitter fuelpump for 400.
Is that normal for 25hp fuelpumps? |
A price you see in the classifieds is not necessarily THE price of a part.
Often sellers put up a weird fantasy price and hope for one idiot to wake up that morning to buy it.
I´ll happily sell you a zwitter pump for half of that. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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Brezelwerks Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:18 am Post subject: |
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The only way to tell what the market will pay at any particular point in time, for any of these items, is to put them up for auction on ebay.
Start the auction at a price that is slightly below what you think the part may be worth, and you can search old auctions on Ebay to find data points to consider when pricing your auction to start.
This way you target finding buyers in the market looking for that part, and not just attracting flippers or restorers looking to make money off of you.
If your item/s don't sell, consider trying to trade for items you do need, because many times not all things can be simply bought.
In the case of that rare semaphore, as its all original, appears in very good to excellent condition, if it works, I would advertise here it at "best offer over $400" here on thesamba, that way you can take offers and/or trades. If you went to ebay for example I'd start the auction at $375.
Since a semaphore is neither left or right specific it does not matter too much on price if you have only one, and there is a very good chance someone else likely has just one also, who may be looking for a very good condition original as this one is, or upgrading to a better original. |
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:35 am Post subject: |
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a bit off topic, but speaking of split part values....There was recently a 52/55 for sale in classifieds. Included in this sale was a '55 donor body with a '52 split window dash and split rear window section. This also came with the split pan. Don't remember price but was in the $6-8,000 range.
would this be a worthy investment? at the end of the day it would be titled as a '52. _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
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johnshenry Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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True 25hp fuel pumps are getting more expensive, but they are far from $400 IMO. But a good rebuildable "flat top" 25 hp pump is worth in the $250 range IMO. I just begrudgingly let go of my last one for about that. I just listed an ad for a lot of 8 pumps, including 2-3 zwitters for $250 I think.
Engine cases are for more difficult to put a value on because until they get into an experienced machinists hands, their ability to be rebuilt/used is always in question, no matter what the seller says. _________________ John Henry
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usariemen Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:25 am Post subject: |
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I took a look at your ad John.
None of the pumps is a Zwitter one.
They had the all flat 25 hp ones just with the smaller threats for the later fuel lines. Only used on Zwitters and ´53 ovals. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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virtanen Samba Member
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johan81 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Here is my 53 zwitter pump
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johan81 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:52 am Post subject: |
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I'm going to restore the fuelpump to my52 so i have 3 more so
it is better to restore all of them.
zwitter to the left. _________________ 52 bug
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johnshenry Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:15 am Post subject: |
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usariemen wrote: |
I took a look at your ad John.
None of the pumps is a Zwitter one.
They had the all flat 25 hp ones just with the smaller threats for the later fuel lines. Only used on Zwitters and ´53 ovals. |
Ah, OK, thanks. I was thinking the ones with the "bubble/dome" tops were zwitter. I'll correct the ad. Does anyone know when the removable screw/plug that allows you to remove the rod was dropped? _________________ John Henry
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lurkinstock Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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I agree some of these asking prices for split window bug parts are crazy.....like the 25hp fuel pumps if you can find one......but try finding a working 6 volt "D" Regulator for under $250 or $300
I had to pay $300 for one a couple years ago when I was building my vintage speed motor........ a bunch of porsche 12 volt ones were around for $250 to $300. When it's the final piece of the puzzle you have to pony up or go home! No wonder it costs a fortune to restore one of these cars. _________________ " Southern Comfort Vintage Volks "
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usariemen Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Here´s the split vs zwitter ones beside each other.
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johan81 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: A value thread - Values on Split Beetle parts? |
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Have the value on chrashboxe transmissions get realy high or is it just dreams.
On for 2950 and on for 2400.
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dlware1 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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usariemen wrote: |
Here´s the split vs zwitter ones beside each other.
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What would be the value of this pump and what engine uses it?
The fittings are 8mm, but there is no access screw.
(It was on a Jan 1952 engine I acquired years ago).
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