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jcchappy Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2014 Posts: 8 Location: Antlers, Oklahoma (SE Oklahoma)
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:35 pm Post subject: Can anyone identify any of this rail |
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I just traded for this rail. I have always wanted one, but I would like to know more about it. I'm new to VW and to rails so just posting some pictures maybe you guy can tell. I did find out the engine according to the number is a 1500/1600, and it is a single port. It is titled as a 1966 Volkswagen deluxe. I am probably losing the spoiler and definitely redoing the mud flaps. I am also probably going to plastidip the body in satin black to protect the red paint and also to temporarily cover it up. (I don't care for red much,
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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redo the exhaust fersure. Looks like a nice project though. _________________ Wash your hands
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jcchappy Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2014 Posts: 8 Location: Antlers, Oklahoma (SE Oklahoma)
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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this spring I figure I will hit some swap meets and see what I can find. Looking for seats, exhaust, dual carbs, wheels, builder engine, etc.....
Also I found a rebuilt Subaru ea82 engine with carb intake and fuel injected intake for $50 here locally guy built it for his plane and then was told it wasn't approved for an airplane. I may go that route later but these air cooled engine are kind of fun to tinker with. the extra 50 hp would be great. |
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Axitech Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2011 Posts: 1265 Location: Bucks County, Pa
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Nice!! Possible Berrien Warrior or 295 frame. _________________ He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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The frame MAY be an older Chenowth, from California. If it is, the back has been modified and the front fiberglass is Berrien.
How and where are you planning to use the Buggy? The tires say the PO used it almost exclusively on pavement.
"Antlers" is not a familiar place name to me.
US?
Canada?
Inside joke?
The mudflaps may be required by the local vehicle regulations.
The gas tank looks interesting. Unusual shape for certain.
The engine is PROBABLY a 1600 now regardless what it started out as. It's over 40 years old and it's definitely been rebuilt. 1600 pistons and cylinders fit in the same as 1500s. Since the 70s, have been more readily available and and usually cost the same or less than 1500 replacements. So most folks would rebuild it as a 1600 for more hp and the same fuel economy for free. _________________ Richard
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jcchappy Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2014 Posts: 8 Location: Antlers, Oklahoma (SE Oklahoma)
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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double post
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jcchappy Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2014 Posts: 8 Location: Antlers, Oklahoma (SE Oklahoma)
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry on the town. It's Antlers, OK which is se Oklahoma. I'm going to do some light trails and off-road some here in the hills (mostly forest) but mostly street. Yes the mud flaps are required in Oklahoma by law if you don't have fenders. This winter I'm turning them to something a little more acceptable.
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turboblue Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2003 Posts: 4216 Location: Central Indiana
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:04 am Post subject: |
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952 Berrien....prerunner of the 295 Berrien and Warrior. _________________ Gary
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"If you don't run into the Devil every once in awhile, you must be going in the same direction!" |
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jcchappy Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2014 Posts: 8 Location: Antlers, Oklahoma (SE Oklahoma)
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you to all that have replied. The 952 Berrien looks like it fits the bill perfect for this one. |
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cocopuffsman Samba Member
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2RL Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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The transparent roof is prerty cool, and should make seeing traffic lights a whole lot easier then a metal roof does with that chassis design ! Seeing lights in my rail ( I have a chenowth with very similar design to yours) is a real pain with the metal roof on it...I might have to borrow from that idea. The dashboard is pretty cool looking too. Hard to tell from the pictures but it looks like its wood? Whoever did it did a nice job.
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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cocopuffsman wrote: |
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isnt the fiberglass body from a chenowth 2lw? |
Similar to Chenowth and pretty much an imitation, like the frame it's wrapped around. But not quite the same. Here is Larry's (uh60ce) Chenowth for comparison:
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/download/file.php?id=14915 _________________ Richard
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cocopuffsman Samba Member
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Well Cocpuffs, you just might be correct.
Your hood and jcchappy's have a recess down the center. Larry's has a ridge down the center. I'm familiar with Chenowth hoods with the ridge down the center and the only hoods I had seen before which had a recess were ID'd to me as Berrien. Those hoods may have been Chenowth on Berrien frames. I don't know for sure.
But again, you might be right. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
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2RL Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Chenowth 2RL. Interresting about the serial number though, I had no idea how they worked them. What would a serial number of 1522 translate to mean then? |
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jcchappy Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2014 Posts: 8 Location: Antlers, Oklahoma (SE Oklahoma)
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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The body looks like the blue rail but the frame looks like the red one. And yea the dash is wood along with a little ledge behind the seats |
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cocopuffsman Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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uh60ce wrote: |
Chenowth 2RL. Interresting about the serial number though, I had no idea how they worked them. What would a serial number of 1522 translate to mean then? |
Nice buggy! but im not to sure on the vin, mine was 2379
(23rd buggy made in 1979) but your vin is different i wish i knew more about chenowth's maybe lynn chenowth (owner) could go on jay lenos garage with some of his buggies like the FAV's, the 2lw, 4lw etc because he has set alot of records in the baja racing world with his buggies. i will try to get a picture of my chenowth vin tmrw, but is yours behind the drivers seat with chenowth signiture on the top right of the vin/model plate? _________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HSYpTKrUg
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2RL Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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It's actually on the passenger side of the window opening on the cross tube that the steering wheel mounts to on mine , but otherwise as described. Sorry if I hijacked your thread. |
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cocopuffsman Samba Member
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:08 am Post subject: |
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uh60ce wrote: |
Chenowth 2RL. Interresting about the serial number though, I had no idea how they worked them. What would a serial number of 1522 translate to mean then? |
It would mean that you have an extremely OLD rail Larry!
15th rail frame of 1922?
_________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
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