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supertrainguy Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2013 Posts: 166 Location: Tri-Cities, TN
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:54 am Post subject: Good buy? |
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Hi everyone, As some of you might know, I've been looking for a decent ACVW to restore. Does this look like a good buy?
The guy is asking $700 for it.
It's a '74 "sun bug"
The bugging question is, Does it look restorable?
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Her74buggy Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2013 Posts: 367 Location: Houston
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:23 am Post subject: |
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I have a theory on old cars, $1000 more now for a solid base will save you $2000 during the restoration. |
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monkbonk Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2009 Posts: 267 Location: Odenville, AL
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:26 am Post subject: |
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I think it's borderline. Too hard too tell from those pictures. His price is too steep for it though. _________________ ---------------------------
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CWAVE Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2008 Posts: 510
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Based on the photos you provided, I think I'd keep looking. The rust on the roof looks like more than just a bit of patina... The corrosion looks pretty advanced on the roof. Heater channels and floorpans are undoubtedly gone.
I'd take on most anything, but this one I think even I would walk away from, and for $700. I think you honestly could do better.
Heck, even from what I can see in one of the photos, the yellow or blue one behind the one you're considering look better! _________________ ___
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WD-40 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2006 Posts: 1178 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, agreed with everyone else, this one is on the line. The condition of the frame head would make/break it for me. For the Supers, you're in that strange value determination zone where a solid frame head and a good condition steering box - those two parts alone - could make it worth that price! But as a car to restore, you're looking at a LOT of work, and it pretty much takes another parts car to restore a former parts car.
CWAVE wrote: |
Heck, even from what I can see in one of the photos, the yellow or blue one behind the one you're considering look better! |
X2! Do you have pictures of the cars to the sides of this one, or that whole row behind it? _________________ "The new Volkswagen 1303. We've made so many improvements, they're beginning to show." |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13843 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Rustosis has set in. Terrible sick disease too. That car has it. Personally keep looking around. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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Chochobeef Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2013 Posts: 811 Location: Ft. Worth, Texas
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:05 am Post subject: |
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It would be a tough save. Could offer him 200 for it. |
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dubjeep Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2011 Posts: 354 Location: Rhode Island
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DrummerDaveB Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2005 Posts: 504 Location: Louisville, KY Area
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:09 am Post subject: |
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[Singing]
"And I ran, I ran so far away.
And I ran, I ran all night and day...
Couldnt get away"
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DrummerDaveB Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2005 Posts: 504 Location: Louisville, KY Area
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:12 am Post subject: |
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If you're willing to travel a few hours, I know where there is a very clean/solid Standard bug body for sale for $800. Southern Indiana near Louisville.
http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/4699118067.html
I drove past it the other day, and thought about buying it myself. Check out the wheel wells. You cant see it in these pics, but even the rockers in front of the rear wheels are solid.
Buy that and find a pan somewhere and you're in business. _________________ 79 SB Vert, in pieces.
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oceanair Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2013 Posts: 720 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Frankly and politely, if you can't tell, then you have no idea how to get this car going again. So, stay away from a project like that. |
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HRVW Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2011 Posts: 2531 Location: Rosarito, Mexico
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Unless you won the Lottery I would say "NO WAY JOSE" |
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WD-40 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2006 Posts: 1178 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:50 am Post subject: |
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oceanair wrote: |
Frankly and politely, if you can't tell, then you have no idea how to get this car going again. So, stay away from a project like that. |
I'd normally agree, but in this case, I'm going to disagree.
I mean no disrespect with this, so please don't take it the wrong way. But if you read supertrainguy's other posts, he's.. how do you say it... not a concours restoration kind of guy.
"I bought this aftermarket radio and it doesn't fit. Should I cut the dash?"
"Mount it in the glovebox." (posted 1h 30m later)
"Too late, I already cut the dash."
...and then there is the engine build thread.
Frankly, and I mean this in a POSITIVE way - supertrainguy, a car like this is probably the IDEAL car for you to restore. If you start with a car that the majority say is junk and not worth restoring, you can do pretty much anything you want without catching so much flak for it. You can learn to weld, you can take your shortcuts, you can hack whatever you want without worrying about originality, etc, etc. If you get it going, it's one more car on the road that otherwise would have been crushed. And if you talk them down (which you should), then you're almost at the break-even point for parting it out and scrapping the rest to get your money back if you end up giving up on it.
... Plus, you already have an engine for it. _________________ "The new Volkswagen 1303. We've made so many improvements, they're beginning to show." |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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What I see isn't worth more than $200 in parts.
What I can't see are the 'A' pillars that are no-doubt rusted beyond reasonable repair. Look for drain tube woes with these later sunroof cars in your part of the world.
Also, I'd never buy a car from a junk unless I am the first on scene after it is brought in. There's a reason it's been rejected by everyone else who has seen it. _________________
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VW_Buggsy Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2002 Posts: 517
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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That car is a turd. Is walk away.
Though, I'd really like just one of those sport wheels to use as a spare. |
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BUGGED11111 Samba Member
Joined: February 03, 2006 Posts: 1819 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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It's restorable if you do body work. If you don't pass on it |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13385 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Her74buggy wrote: |
I have a theory on old cars, $1000 more now for a solid base will save you $2000 during the restoration. |
So true though in the case of this car, spending an extra $1000 on a rust free bug would save him 5-8k in metal work on this rust bucket. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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906CARRERA Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2012 Posts: 16 Location: UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Any car is restorable if you are willing to throw enough money at it. |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9826 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:34 am Post subject: |
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I say buy it before someone else sees this thread and beats you to it. The patina is awesome. I can't wait to see the build thread. |
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Wolfgangdieter Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2008 Posts: 1958 Location: FL Panhandle
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:49 am Post subject: |
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I like the lime green dune buggy in front of it -- no rust there! _________________ CMC '57 Porsche Speedster Replica and Dolphin boat tailed full pan VW MOD-T Street Buggy |
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