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OG67westy Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2008 Posts: 286 Location: San Marcos Texas 78666
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:28 pm Post subject: gas cap leak? |
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whenever I take a hard left with a full tank of gas, fuel pours down the side of the car. Should there be a rubber seal on the gascap? it appears to be metal on metal, but fits tight...appears to be a venting cap, could that be the issue? TIA _________________ '67 Westy pearl white "Greta"
'67 Westy velvet green "Ken's bus"
'74 Thing blizzard white "Schatze"
'61 Panel dove blue"Rche"
'65 Bug rusty"Tina"
'83 Porsche 944 |
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hobie16 Samba Member
Joined: July 26, 2013 Posts: 244 Location: Maui
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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There is a gasket that sits on the inside of the gas cap. The replacement ones are very stiff and hard to get in. Maybe the Brothers know how to get it in. _________________ Don't be fooled by appearances. In Hawaii, some of the most powerful people look like bums and stuntmen.
--- Matt King
If anything’s going to happen, it’s going to happen out there.
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Ron Domeck Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1466 Location: louisville Ky
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Can't be much help here. Who makes a gasket? I have seen them for the locking cap. |
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citroen Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2010 Posts: 1578 Location: louisville ky
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Like brother said I have not seen a gasket this is what a factory original looks like see if yours look like this . thanks Dennis Domeck
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Al Capulco Samba Member
Joined: October 31, 2005 Posts: 532 Location: Northridge, CA.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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I have those factory brick red gaskets. Got them from Germany years ago. Never tried to install one. |
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OG67westy Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2008 Posts: 286 Location: San Marcos Texas 78666
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:47 am Post subject: |
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I do have the original cap. Could it be that the rubber "valve" type thing in there is dried out/torn ? _________________ '67 Westy pearl white "Greta"
'67 Westy velvet green "Ken's bus"
'74 Thing blizzard white "Schatze"
'61 Panel dove blue"Rche"
'65 Bug rusty"Tina"
'83 Porsche 944 |
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5688 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone come up with a fix for this?
Upon left turns, fuel is spraying out of my cap! I can look over and watch the fuel spraying out. (Doors off.)
The red seal is there and not cracked, though I don't know how good of a job it is doing.
Is there some piece of the cap further inside it that could be leaking?
Are there any good quality replacements available? _________________ Dave Cook
President, Wild Westerner Club
1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
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Zylinderkopf Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2012 Posts: 679 Location: SE Oklahoma
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:55 am Post subject: |
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I couldn't find a replacement seal/gasket either so I ended up buying a new gas cap. You can get them at thethingshop.com. Have you checked all your hoses under the hood for leaks? Have you also checked the seal for the filler cap on the tank? _________________ 1963 Beetle
1966 Beetle 1300
1970 Karmann Ghia Coupe
1971 Super Beetle
1974 Thing
"A lot of people never use their initiative because no one told them to." |
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5688 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Zylinderkopf wrote: |
I couldn't find a replacement seal/gasket either so I ended up buying a new gas cap. You can get them at thethingshop.com. Have you checked all your hoses under the hood for leaks? Have you also checked the seal for the filler cap on the tank? |
Not sure what you mean by filler cap on the tank.
The gas cap, along with the metal line from front to back, are the only two parts of the fuel system that are original. Every single thing was replaced-tank, vent lines, carb rebuilt, seals etc etc when I got the car running a couple months ago.
You can see the fuel spraying out from up there on turns.
I pulled the cap this morning and see that there is some plastic innards-perhaps that is cracked and that is what the gas is spilling from. _________________ Dave Cook
President, Wild Westerner Club
1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5688 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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oasis Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2002 Posts: 2168
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:35 am Post subject: |
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vwwestyman wrote: |
Opinions on The Thing Shop regular vs. locking gas caps?
I did see one comment in searching that called their locking gas cap a piece of crap. But maybe that was an old style or something. |
I have both. It is my opinion the locking gas cap from TTS is not a piece of crap. However, I do find it to be a pain in the neck to unlock and lock. It would be easier if the key were totally separate from my Thing key (which has a couple other keys with it, too), but the cap key is tiny and easy to lose.
I use the stock gas cap that came with Thing most of the time. If I think it might be left alone too long near some potentially not-so-nice people, I put on the locking cap for the day.
Post-posting edit: Just to be clear, my "regular" gas cap may or may not be from the TTS. My locking one is from TTS. _________________ Now: 2003 New Beetle Turbo S / 1990 Single Cab Transporter / 2014 Tiguan R-Line 4motion / 2013 Tiguan S / 2002 Golf GLS TDI
Past: 1974 Thing Acapulco / 2009 Eos Komfort / 1997 Jetta GT / 2002 Cabrio GLX / 2002 Passat GLS / 1971 Super Beetle / 1993 EuroVan MV Westfalia / 1981 Pickup LX / 1985 Vanagon / 1986 Jetta GLI |
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Zylinderkopf Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2012 Posts: 679 Location: SE Oklahoma
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:48 am Post subject: |
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I bought the replacement gas cap from the Thing Shop and it works fine. I didn't get the one with the lock, even though TheThingShop says they are superior in quality. I just didn't want to have to mess with a key and having to lock/unlock. It also doesn't look stock. _________________ 1963 Beetle
1966 Beetle 1300
1970 Karmann Ghia Coupe
1971 Super Beetle
1974 Thing
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OG67westy Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2008 Posts: 286 Location: San Marcos Texas 78666
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:09 am Post subject: |
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I made a seal for mine, and it fixed the problem immediately. Only problem is, the seal isn't holding up. I guess I'll try and find some material that holds up better than an old innertube... _________________ '67 Westy pearl white "Greta"
'67 Westy velvet green "Ken's bus"
'74 Thing blizzard white "Schatze"
'61 Panel dove blue"Rche"
'65 Bug rusty"Tina"
'83 Porsche 944 |
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bald_dude43 Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2014 Posts: 107 Location: Ewa Beach Hawaii
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Look at your cap itself. Are the three bent in tabs too far out? Use some needle nose pliers to bend them back in very carefully. Check your filler neck. Are the sides worn or bent unevenly? Use a pair of needle nose pliers to even them out. If the gasket is smooth all the way around and has no cracks then it should seal properly as long as the above mentioned cap and neck are properly aligned. You can get some engine gasket material and make your own using door knob hole drill bits and a slow turning drill. |
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Ron Domeck Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1466 Location: louisville Ky
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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How about just putting a new cap on, there not that pricey. |
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bald_dude43 Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2014 Posts: 107 Location: Ewa Beach Hawaii
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Ron Domeck wrote: |
How about just putting a new cap on, there not that pricey. |
LOL because we are some cheap bastages. The money we save making a gasket, we could spend on a cup of coffee |
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Al Capulco Samba Member
Joined: October 31, 2005 Posts: 532 Location: Northridge, CA.
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to try a factory gasket, let me know, I will send you one. I never had to replace one, so I don't know how hard they are to replace. |
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kubelmann Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2003 Posts: 3266
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:29 am Post subject: |
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I have tried a number of times and have broken the red gasket in half each time. A few years ago, some Thing lover figured out that a standard bathtub drain gasket is close to the same size and serves as a fuel resistant rubber gasket... I seem to remember that the gasket cost way less than $5
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5688 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:36 am Post subject: |
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bald_dude43 wrote: |
Ron Domeck wrote: |
How about just putting a new cap on, there not that pricey. |
LOL because we are some cheap bastages. The money we save making a gasket, we could spend on a cup of coffee |
Or a top and windows!
I made the mistake of driving the Thing to work today. When I left the house, it looked sunny and the weather indicated only a slight chance of rain.
But I live in a bit of a valley, so I didn't notice the clouds to the West.
I got wet on the way to work. lol _________________ Dave Cook
President, Wild Westerner Club
1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
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dagimp Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Philly
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:39 am Post subject: Re: gas cap leak? |
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OG67westy wrote: |
whenever I take a hard left with a full tank of gas, fuel pours down the side of the car. Should there be a rubber seal on the gascap? it appears to be metal on metal, but fits tight...appears to be a venting cap, could that be the issue? TIA |
Can't turn left? Your name wouldn't happen to be Zoolander would it?
As for your problem, I went with a drain gasket and cut it to size with a pair of scissors. It's worked great for years and they guy at Home Depot even gave it to me for free. _________________ Buck
1973 Orange VW Thing, "Otto". |
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