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vanity12 Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2014 Posts: 102 Location: long beach
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:57 pm Post subject: Campers with cooktop and icebox |
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what year did they start putting in the cook top and ice box??? |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51150 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Who's "they"?, there's many different camper manufacturers. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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vanity12 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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excuse me if i'm not being clear.........how about what year did cook tops and ice boxes start appearing in campers |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14269 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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In 1952 chassis #20-13280 was fitted by Dresden Karroserie with stuff like that but the stove had to be pulled out of a cupboard. |
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Ran When Parked Samba Member
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vanity12 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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^^thanks a lot....this gives me something to chew on |
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Ran When Parked Samba Member
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51150 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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the 1974 model was the first year a Westfalia was sold in North America with a built in stove, SO-44's (and likely other models as well as OTW manufacturers) had them in the 60's but they were only for the European market. Iceboxes started in the 50's.
But since you don't want to specify a brand it's very likely some of the first barndoors converted to campers by crafty DIY owners had built in appliances as well. Or if you mean camper in general and not a VW bus camper then I'd guess ~100 years ago when people first started converting early motor vehicles _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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earlywesty Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2004 Posts: 2358 Location: In the woods, Ontario
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:42 am Post subject: |
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There were stoves in some models of early campingboxes (50's) and a propane fridge for the 1958 models. This is a really open ended question that likely needs some context to be answered appropriately. |
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vanity12 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:06 am Post subject: |
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i had no idea that this question would have so many layers i just wanted to put together a kick ass split window camper.....that was for the most part time era correct (with the exception of color and upgrades to make it practical for daily driving)....and that had all of the bells and whistles |
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Pinetops Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Just carry a coleman stove and a nice (vintage if you like) cooler, cooking in a bus will just stink it up. _________________ "A rolling bus gathers no rust." |
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vanity12 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:01 am Post subject: |
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stuco wrote: |
Just carry a coleman stove and a nice (vintage if you like) cooler, cooking in a bus will just stink it up. |
now that's one hell of a point that i didn't take into account |
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Pinetops Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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vanity12 wrote: |
stuco wrote: |
Just carry a coleman stove and a nice (vintage if you like) cooler, cooking in a bus will just stink it up. |
now that's one hell of a point that i didn't take into account |
A lot of bay window bus drivers who have the stoves don't use them for this very reason (along with the fear of leaky propane tanks) other than to make tea, boil water, etc. _________________ "A rolling bus gathers no rust." |
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Z Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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The earlier campers with the door shelf for the portable gas stove always seemed to be the most useable, to me, for that reason.
If the inside of my bus is smokey, I want it to be GOOD smokey. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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stuco wrote: |
Just carry a coleman stove and a nice (vintage if you like) cooler, cooking in a bus will just stink it up. |
The SO-34s & 35s that came out in 1961 had a standard ice box or optional propane fridge. You bought a camping stove for the back cabinet, and cooked either inside or outside.
Our 1960 walk thru panel camper conversion has a table on the rear cargo door that works well with a Coleman stove in similar fashion.
As pointed out before, go thru the owners manuals on this website. Also check out sales brochures in the archives here. Search the bus forums for campers, moist of all get out to your local VW meets and visit around.
If you are going to make a custom camper interior, you need to do the research so you end up with something you not only really like, but can use. The more you dedicate the interior to a camper, the more you can not use the interior for hauling stuff. We have a Coleman upright cooler that works well for us and pulls out in a jiffy so we have just that much more room inside to have the floor space as needed. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51150 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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X3 or whatever on the cooking inside being not as great as expected or advertised, built in stoves were a great way for the salesmen to convince the housewife of the day that it was equipped for all her homemaking duties even on the road, but in reality a portable propane stove is far more useful (in the bus or better yet out on the picnic table). Same with the portable cooler, just ensure there's a way to fasten them down when travelling as in the event of a rollover or collision you don't want extra boulders in the washing machine with you _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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earlywesty Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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We just travelled across the country cooking only on the inside factory stove of our late 70s westy. I will be bringing one of the coleman stoves from now as cooking outside is much preferred. The inside cooking option is most beneficial though on a rainy morning when you just wanna shake the fog off and stay warm in the bus with a cup of tea or coffee. |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14269 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Info |
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Sh*tBird wrote: |
Most likely, BarryL nailed this one down. |
Fwiw that fact is from "VW Camper-The Inside Story" by David Eccles. I was just repeating it. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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buseric wrote: |
We just travelled across the country cooking only on the inside factory stove of our late 70s westy. I will be bringing one of the coleman stoves from now as cooking outside is much preferred. The inside cooking option is most beneficial though on a rainy morning when you just wanna shake the fog off and stay warm in the bus with a cup of tea or coffee. |
Agreed, it's nice to keep the bacon funk and splatters outside for the bears and coons to lick up, I usually bring the propane Coleman along even if there's a built in stove already, no pumping and you can use it inside without having to shovel off all the crap on the built in stovetop to make coffee on a rainy cold morning. Often I even bring the single burner hiking stove along as a night with the kids along results in sh*t spread out all over every flat surface inside and I'm not in the cleanup mood when I haven't had coffee
Built in stoves are nice, but not any better than the mobile ones and the space is sometimes useful for other things. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Gotta love that hairdoo! Early morning "just got up" look? _________________ Some people are so busy being clever they don't have time enough to be wise. |
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