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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:48 pm    Post subject: 009 timing Reply with quote

Sorry for another distributor question but I cant find my problem in other posts. Ive got a 71 maybe 72 case believed to be a stock 1600 in my 69 bug with dual kadron 40's on it with a 009 dist with points. Ive been trying to get ride of a under normal acceleration hesitation for a while. If I run it hard it seems to be fine. Any way today i pulled the plugs and they are burning fine. Points are spot on, valves are good so on and so on. Ive done the reading on the 009 and today i got the timing light out and checked it. it was at 6/7 btdc at idle and about 22 atdc at 3000 rpm. I fallowed Rob and Dave's advice and set it to 32 atdc at 3000 rmp. runs AWESOME hesitation is gone no pinging, great. My concern is it idles at 8 atdc. Everything i read says it falls to a btdc range between 5 or 10 sometimes 16. Mine does not. I get that the 3000 rmp setting is the important one but it still doesnt seem right that it idles atdc. Is it a issue? Id hate to burn it up. Thanks ahead for any help
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, anything to the right of TDC is before TDC. Are you saying you set it to 32 degrees BTDC? If so, that is correct. And if so, are you sure it's not at 8 BTDC (to the right of TDC on the pulley)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes to the right of tdc sorry
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

at idle and at 3000 rpm are both on the right side of tdc
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay then. You are good to go. Set timing to 30-32 degrees at 3000 rpm and let the idle timing fall where it will. 8 BTDC at idle is perfectly fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you originally timed to 7.5 ATDC, to the left of TDC, you were too far retarded. It's no wonder it ran like crapola
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks bro. It just dawned on me that i was bass akwards with my thinking on the timing marks. thanks for the smack on the back of the head
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all good. That's what the forums are for
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

Adjusted timing at full advance and it falls at 28 btdc and 12 idle. OK?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

Advance all in. Idle where it may be
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

Frodge wrote:
Adjusted timing at full advance and it falls at 28 btdc and 12 idle. OK?


28-12=16*.

A 009 should have 22*.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

Hmm.. What do I do now? It seems to run fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

Then drive it..

28* total will not hurt the engine. But your performance might suffer.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

Do you still sell a svda for solex 30 Pict 3?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

I do not.

You want a 205T.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

runs great.. dont screw with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

mark tucker wrote:
runs great

Less filling. Wink

Actually it can run better.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: 009 timing Reply with quote

Where can I get the correct distributor?
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