Question about late Super Beetle sunroof opening

Junkyardjockey

Hello...I had come back from the shop earlier in the day where the headliner & glass is being installed on my '74 Super, and they are telling me I am missing a weatherstrip or some kind of molding that goes over this edge from the top of the sunroof hole:

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This I believe is the edge where the headliner material wraps around; is the headliner material held on by anything other than glue & any other sunroof parts that attach in this area? I had just dropped off this part with the 5 clips & thin metal rod:

so they can attach the headliner material to this part, which attaches to the underside of the exterior sunroof panel. I didn't think there was a molding/weatherstrip there, but I could be wrong. Your help & advice is appreciated! Thanks!
Ken[/img]

cletus_zuber · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:43 pm Post subject:

Yeah, theres a sort of pinch weld that goes there, i'll try to find a picture of my old 73 and post it.
in the meantime look at this manual. early watercooled roofs are very similar to late supers

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/vwsunroof_h2o.php

See if you can see it in this picture, its the crusty looking/white stuff around
the bottom side of the opening

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1972 1302
HPMX 40's & 019

Junkyardjockey · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:50 am Post subject:

Oh wow cool! Thanks for the link to the manual & for the photo! I just hope I can find that pinch weld molding so I can buy one! Wish me luck!

cletus_zuber · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:58 am Post subject:

It was said a few years ago that the VW dealer could get it. Was listed as a Jetta or rabbit part.
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1972 1302
HPMX 40's & 019

Junkyardjockey · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:16 am Post subject:

O RLY? Hmmmmm.... What would that part be officially called then?? How can I get the part number for it? Thanks again! Very Happy

Junkyardjockey · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:52 am Post subject:

OK I did find the 'official' name for this part; it's called "beading, sunroof frame" & the VW part # is 321 877 227 A 581(the last 3 numbers are for the color; white). And here are 2 photos I pulled from the interwebs that show the exact part I need:

In this photo I need the part marked as 1

In this photo the part is marked 6a
Поз. Номер детали Наименование Примечание шт. Применимость
steel sliding roof

1303:113,
1303:133
1 --- --- --- no longer available 1303
1A --- --- --- no longer available 2 1303
1B 411 877 145 friction piece 2 1303
2 241 877 205 plug 2 1302
3 --- --- --- no longer available 1 1302
3A --- --- --- no longer available 2640MM 1 1303
4 --- --- --- no longer available
5 117 877 223 C gasket
front
1494MM 1
1302

6 117 877 225 B gasket
rear
845MM 1
1302

6A 321 877 227 A beading for sunroof frame 2108MM 1 1303
8/72 1/80 581 cloud white
7 --- --- --- no longer available 1302
8 255 877 231 water drain hose 2400MM 2
9 --- --- --- no longer available
10 --- --- --- no longer available 4
10A --- --- --- no longer available 1303
10B --- --- --- no longer available 1303
10C N 013 965 5 tapping screw, fill. hd. B4,2X9,5 7 1303
10D N 012 224 3 spring washer B4X9X0,5 7 1303
(11) --- --- --- no longer available 1 1302
11 --- --- --- no longer available 1 1303
12 171 877 278 guide piece 2
13 313 877 277 clamp 2
14 191 877 281 clamp 5
15 --- --- --- no longer available
16 --- --- --- no longer available front 2 1302
16A 171 877 481 guide front 2 1303
17 117 877 497 screw, csk. hd. M10X1 2
18 --- --- --- no longer available 2 1302
19 N 012 225 3 spring washer B5X11X0,5 4
20 N 014 131 3 fillister hd. screw AM5X15 4
20A 411 877 489 support plate for guide rear 2 1303
20B N 014 140 5 fillister hd. screw M6X15 4 1303
20C N 012 226 5 spring washer B6X12X0,5 4 1303
21 --- --- --- no longer available
The above listing is from a Russian VAG webpage & shows all of the superbeetle sunroof parts. Now the challenge is to find someone that has this part available! Very Happy

Junkyardjockey · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:54 am Post subject:

I found 2 more pics of the sunroof beading that I need:

Hopefully that will be enough...lol...

cletus_zuber · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:14 pm Post subject:

Good job, Dude!

I didn't pursue my sunroof parts search any further, sorry to say. I ended up selling that car (traded it actually, for a pickup truck).

Miss that damn sunroof though....
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1972 1302
HPMX 40's & 019


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