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VW70BUS
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 Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:13 pm Post subject: Permanent fog on edges of windshield. |
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| Good evening. I am working on a 1967 beetle and the windshield has a perma ring of fog around the outside of glass. Was wondering if anybody has had the same issues? |
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vwsonmybrain
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Location: Oregon
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Pretty common. It's due to the safety glass delaminating and you'll have to replace the windshield as I don't believe there's any way to fix it. |
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andk5591
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Yeah - I have 2 cars right now with that problem. Not aware of any way to repair.
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gt1953
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:12 am Post subject: |
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New windshield glass will fix it. Other then that leave it alone.
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VOLKSWAGNUT
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:25 am Post subject: |
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If you must replace.. then replace.. but be sure to cut it out as you can sell the old one to the patina crowd.. 
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tb03830
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
If you must replace.. then replace.. but be sure to cut it out as you can sell the old one to the patina crowd..
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I was going to say that but as usual VOLKSWAGNUT steals my thoughts. Alot of the guys that want origional glass actually want that look. I hate it but...
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grandpa pete
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
If you must replace.. then replace.. but be sure to cut it out as you can sell the old one to the patina crowd..
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I was going to say that but as usual VOLKSWAGNUT steals my thoughts. Alot of the guys that want origional glass actually want that look. I hate it but... |
That really is one of the crazyest things I have read on Samba !!  .
I can't imagine going through the aggravation of installing a windshield that was fogged . 
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VOLKSWAGNUT
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| grandpa pete wrote: |
| tb03830 wrote: |
| VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
If you must replace.. then replace.. but be sure to cut it out as you can sell the old one to the patina crowd..
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I was going to say that but as usual VOLKSWAGNUT steals my thoughts. Alot of the guys that want origional glass actually want that look. I hate it but... |
That really is one of the crazyest things I have read on Samba !! .
I can't imagine going through the aggravation of installing a windshield that was fogged . |
Crazy.??? . Me???? .... . Well that is the rumor.. more like NUTS though... 
If you want the look.. youz gotta do.... what youz gotta do..
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Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
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TheDon
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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I've got a few jars of German air from the 60's plus a big cylinder of '67 only air. Anyone interested? Last guy I sold to also bought a bridge I had in Brooklyn.
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eyetzr 
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:46 am Post subject: |
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If it is the original glass, some people only want German parts, be it foggy edges or whatever. I installed a used chipped windshield in a customer truck. He bought it & we installed. Harley Davidson truck. Made the resale value go up, all original. I get paid customer happy.
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I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done" |
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marklee
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:47 am Post subject: |
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the fogging is caused by damp getting into the Polyvinyl butyl layer which is the laminate between the glass sheets
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marklee
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the fogging is caused by damp getting into the Polyvinyl butyl layer which is the laminate between the glass sheets
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grvwsic
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:54 am Post subject: |
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1/3 isopropyl alcohol
2/3 water
mix
and spray on window
wipe off. |
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tb03830
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:00 am Post subject: |
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1/3 isopropyl alcohol
2/3 water
mix
and spray on window
wipe off. |
How do you wipe off something that is on the inside of the glass?? Did I miss something here?
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WD-40
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| TheDon wrote: |
| I've got a few jars of German air from the 60's plus a big cylinder of '67 only air. Anyone interested? Last guy I sold to also bought a bridge I had in Brooklyn. |
Is the 60's air pre-67 or post-67?
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gimpy60
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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hell, just chop the damn top, then cut the fog out of the winder
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VOLKSWAGNUT
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| hell, just chop the damn top, then cut the fog out of the winder |
I chopped the top... and kept the fog in it.... on purpose......
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Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
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Digger89L
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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I found this on an old Chevy forum. Might be worth a try:
If your glass is 'foggy' around the edges from de-lamination, try this. Using a heat gun or hair dryer, start heating the area affected and heat all around the foggy area for a couple of inches past the trouble spot. Be carefull not to get it hot enough to crack, a hair dryer usually won't, but a heat gun can! I have cleared many windshields this way and never broke one. The best part is it lasts a long time (usually years)!!! |
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