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mstevens Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 225 Location: Boise, Idaho
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:50 am Post subject: Can I get your thoughts on this 65 |
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I am a buggy guy, I have three Original Meyers Manxes, but I am still a newby to rolling around in a full beetle. I really want to pick up a ragtop for something to fix up and be a daily driver.
I have been looking at this 65 pictured below. can I get your thoughts on it?
Owner doesnt know the history it, No rust, runs well. Has been repainted a few times. Looks like a fun one to fix up. But I have been reading the 65 ragtops really don't exist unless it came from Mexico.
Any indicators that this is either a good or bad purchase. (not worrying about price, but more of if the ragtop looks aftermarket, wrong fenders, or anything I should be looking for when I go to pick it up.)
Thanks for your help!
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bdub475 Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2009 Posts: 577 Location: Los Lunas, New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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The ragtop definitely looks aftermarket to me. It looks smaller than a vw ragtop. Someone installed 56-57 front signals. |
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bdub475 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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The ragtop definitely looks aftermarket to me. It looks smaller than a vw ragtop. Someone installed 56-57 front signals. |
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rcroane Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2013 Posts: 2000 Location: Springfield, Virginia
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Are you sure it's a '65?
Front turn signals look strange, what is the button to the right of the ashtray, and would a '65 have script on the decklid (mine doesn't)?. |
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rcroane Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2013 Posts: 2000 Location: Springfield, Virginia
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I missed the comment about the 56-57 signals. |
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mstevens Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 225 Location: Boise, Idaho
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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I think what you are seeing on the right of the ash tray is a aftermarket cigarette plug.
The owner said it is a 65 but, I couldn't tell you how much of a vw guy he if he has the year wrong. |
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WD-40 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2006 Posts: 1178 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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rcroane wrote: |
what is the button to the right of the ashtray |
Cigarette lighter socket, it's just missing the lighter part. (Probably put away while being used with a cell phone charger). _________________ "The new Volkswagen 1303. We've made so many improvements, they're beginning to show." |
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bdub475 Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2009 Posts: 577 Location: Los Lunas, New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Do the body and pan numbers match? Most of my knowledge is in 56-63 beetles. I would guess it's a 65. It has the larger windows and i believe 66 was the start of the center defrost vent. |
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jzjames Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2007 Posts: 1921 Location: Windy Point, WA
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Grafted -in ragtop looks pretty nice to me. Check there for a proper job of grafting in. That could be one of the older aftermarket sunroofs that aren't made anymore, Britax??
Looking at the pics, the front door pillars looks like to have some damage, or maybe something was done to them or the dash.
Otherwise if it's fairly rust free and the price is OK to you, go for it. |
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HRVW Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2011 Posts: 2531 Location: Rosarito, Mexico
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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In addition to the above the right side door closure pillar looks damaged and also the hood is NOT sitting correctly. Could be a hinge adjustment but don't think so as it would bring the front of the hood TOO far forward to the bumper....front end may have been hit. |
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grandpa pete Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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BWD Samba Mailman
Joined: August 23, 2002 Posts: 2154 Location: In bed.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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grandpa pete wrote: |
Definate 65 ...big windows and no center defrost vent
Someones version of bling...two tone paint...painted hubcaps......chrome under hood handle......"custom " parking lights |
Those are turn signals! _________________ BWD
JHC
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1966 Beetle
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67jason Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2005 Posts: 4741 Location: behind my back feet - Pittsburg CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:59 am Post subject: |
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looks like a hacked molested turd to me. i'd pass in a heartbeat. _________________ 67 bug x3
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mstevens Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 225 Location: Boise, Idaho
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the input guys. I think I am going to pass on this one.
I was pretty stoked on it for $3000. But it is a 6 hour drive to go pick it up, so if I made the trip I was going to pretty much come back with it regardless. Even if it didn't turn out that nice when I got there. But after some of the points you guys brought up I think I will hold off for a "real" rag in better condition. |
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grandpa pete Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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BWD wrote: |
grandpa pete wrote: |
Definate 65 ...big windows and no center defrost vent
Someones version of bling...two tone paint...painted hubcaps......chrome under hood handle......"custom " parking lights |
Those are turn signals! |
do you feel smarter than me now! _________________ 63 two fold rag
66 sedan delivery Type 6
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569619&highlight=sedan+delivery |
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allsidius Samba Member
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BWD Samba Mailman
Joined: August 23, 2002 Posts: 2154 Location: In bed.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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grandpa pete wrote: |
BWD wrote: |
grandpa pete wrote: |
Definate 65 ...big windows and no center defrost vent
Someones version of bling...two tone paint...painted hubcaps......chrome under hood handle......"custom " parking lights |
Those are turn signals! |
do you feel smarter than me now! |
No, now if I was an engineer, I'd know I was smarter than you! _________________ BWD
JHC
member #2850
1966 Beetle
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