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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:06 am    Post subject: The Wisconsin 1955 Karmann Ghia Reply with quote

I thought it about time i started a thread on this Ghia Smile

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It popped up in the classifieds back in March '14, listed as '56 ghia needs a new home' . Priced at $5900,location Wisconsin.

It looked from the photos in the ad to be a mostly original early lizard green coupe,certainly needing a little bit of work! I made attempts to buy it but it sold pretty quickly,locally. It was listed as a December '55 build car.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After some email exchanges with the new owner about some early details I was offered the chance to purchase the car a month or so later.An offer i took up.

So,money transferred,arrangements were made to get the engine fitted back in the car and transported to the shipping agents in Chicago.
This is it at the shippers waiting to be put in a container for it's 3 week journey over here Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Various delays at the Chicago end meant a nervous wait for me,but eventually the MSC Ilona set sail with its cargo. 3 weeks later on a sunny day in June i got my first look at it 'in the flesh' Smile

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Overall i was pretty happy, largely original and untouched 55 build Ghia, a little crustier in parts than i had hoped for,but still not too bad.
I spent the next week or so going through it,cleaning it out,seeing what was missing/needed. Quite a few mice had made there home in it over the years,so it wasn't the most pleasant of jobs Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are your plans for the car?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering that the Ghia had called Wisconsin its home, I'd say you are very lucky that you don't have much more rust to contend with.

Regardless, a Ghia built in 1955 in any condition is a hell of a find almost 60 years later - Congratulations.
I can't wait to see it progress.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

toddb_67 wrote:
What are your plans for the car?


The plan is to get it on the road as is, repair the rust issues when i have collected the panels needed and the necessary funds.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KGCoupe wrote:
Considering that the Ghia had called Wisconsin its home, I'd say you are very lucky that you don't have much more rust to contend with.

Regardless, a Ghia built in 1955 in any condition is a hell of a find almost 60 years later - Congratulations.
I can't wait to see it progress.


Thanks Smile I thought the winters weren't Ghia friendly up there Laughing

It's been off the road for quite a few years,possibly since the mid/late '60's,so it certainly didn't lead a pampered existence when it was new.
It may even have been as far as Mexico, it has a battered 'Turista' decal on the windscreen. Maybe someone else knows better?, it looks like a temporary import/travel sticker from my research.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

friggin shittt.... a Wisconsin fifties car that solid???? wow that car must be a very low mileage car, or it's originally from the west of the good ol' US of A. Looking at the badge on the window which is in spanish, I guess it would be the latter, or it could even be imported from somewhere more south of the US...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A previous owner had obtained a birth certificate for the car back in '96.
It was built 17/12/55, left the factory and headed to Chicago on 21/12/55. M codes- 18,20,128,138,950.

It seems to have stayed in the mid west for most of its life (apart from the possible mexico trip!) I managed to contact the earliest 'known' owner from the old title. I wrote a letter to the 20 year old address explaining about the car i had just bought, about a week later i received an email reply confirming that yes,he did own the Ghia back in the '90's. Winner! Unfortunately he couldn't tell me a lot about the cars previous history.

He bought the car in the mid '90's,probably '95, from a guy called Jessie from Holmen,Wisconsin. Jessie stored the car in a dirt floor garage for many years,they had a hard time getting the Ghia out because it had sunk into the dirt after sitting for so many years. Jessie and his wife have long since passed, so that trail seems to have ended.

There are a few service stickers on the car -La crosse ,WI , and Maquoketa Iowa,and a Des Moines inspection sticker, so it didn't stray far. Most of its time seems to have been spent in barns in Holmen and Spooner WI.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fascinating stuff. I'm incurably inquisitive and would not be able to rest or sleep until I had chased down every year of that car's past.

Enjoy the ride (in restoring it and finding out more about it). Every one who ever touched that car to service it is part of its history and its story.

Please tell me you're going to continue searching and telling us what you find.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiwighia68 wrote:
Fascinating stuff. I'm incurably inquisitive and would not be able to rest or sleep until I had chased down every year of that car's past.

Enjoy the ride (in restoring it and finding out more about it). Every one who ever touched that car to service it is part of its history and its story.

Please tell me you're going to continue searching and telling us what you find.


Yes, it's all part of the fun Smile Though i'm not sure if i'm going to be able find out a lot more. Jessies last name would be helpful,but the chap can't remember it,and there is no other documentation at the moment Sad



I started the cleanup process, it had been home to a few mice over the years,various nests and mummified remains were disposed of!

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The original headliner is still in place, it made a nice warm home for someone!
Lots of nesting material was hoovered out of the mouse holes.
They also managed to remove a lot of the carpet/sound deadening from behind the rear seat. Nasty job!

On the outside i gave it a light bath to get rid of the thick layer of dust/dirt.

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The lower half has an old repaint in the original colour- lizard green, plus a few blow ins here and there! The roof i believe is original paint - deep green.
I quite like the survivor look, so any repairs will get blended in when they are done.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing 55, Russ Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats not a mouse, thats a rat!
Very nice purchase, looks very original. What is the red circular item knee high at driverside? Congratulations!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foot pump for windshield washer
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
thats not a mouse, thats a rat!
Very nice purchase, looks very original. What is the red circular item knee high at driverside? Congratulations!


As Fiatdude said, it's for the windshield washer system. Not the easiest to use with either your foot or knee!

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The Wizard instant action washer system!

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Nice placement!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very jealous Smile where abouts in the UK are you ?

(and yes that suspiciously looks like a rat!)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

carl4x4 wrote:
Very jealous Smile where abouts in the UK are you ?

(and yes that suspiciously looks like a rat!)


I'm in Bedfordshire.

Mouse/rat, whatever they are,they called this home for quite a while!

Things were looking better after a light bath..

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It still sports the original one piece front bumper, but note the guards are in the wrong place. A pair of cast/stud guards have been fitted a few inches further out on the bumper.
Probably after it had a small knock on the nose damaging the original enclosed guards. You can see one of the mounting holes for the enclosed guards on the top edge of the bumper.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome car! Very inspiring to peek into the car's past.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a stellar car... rats, hacks and all. time to break out the buffer.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The nose badge on the car had been replaced with a later one piece item. It should have the two piece emblem with the blue enamel centre.

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Closer inspection revealed they hadn't just swapped over the badge, but welded/brazed the later badge onto the older badge Shocked Surely would have been easier to just swap the badge!

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I had a spare correct badge, so put that on for now.

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I may yet put the modified badge back on as it's part of the cars history/story Laughing
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