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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:43 am    Post subject: Cip1.ca VDM reproduction steering wheel... no longer listed Reply with quote

So I went online with the intension of purchasing the VDM reproduction steering wheel from cip1.ca , only to find that it is no longer listed...not out of stock, but not listed.
I have spent loads of time searching the googlie inter web and found a few sites that list the Karman ghia wheel, but no Bus wheel.

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So does anyone know of a supplier that still sells these steering wheels?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha.that wheel was my first choice.i ended up getting the rometsch style one.its slightly smaller 16" then a stock bus wheel.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't get it unless you want to drive around with a limp noodle in your hands. those wheels flex like crazy.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sled wrote:
don't get it unless you want to drive around with a limp noodle in your hands. those wheels flex like crazy.



Really? That is what I've heard about the banjo wheels. Do you think that the flexing issue is why they cannot be found, or are discontinued?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flemcadiddlehopper wrote:
sled wrote:
don't get it unless you want to drive around with a limp noodle in your hands. those wheels flex like crazy.



Really? That is what I've heard about the banjo wheels. Do you think that the flexing issue is why they cannot be found, or are discontinued?


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That`s what I have into my bus since several years ago and I don t have any problem.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you find them let me know, I've been looking as well for a while. I can't comment on the quality of this one, but I will confirm the banjo repop does in fact feel like a wet noodle. Scary in a bug with a big motor, I can't imagine using it in a bus that's actually driven
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received a PM to urge me to look in a couple of directions. Both directions have lead me to Just Kampers as their source. On the Just Kampers site it lists the VDM wheel as "out of stock" or "discontinued". I have sent them an email to ask which it was, and if it was discontinued, could they get me in contact with the manufacturer of the wheel.

So, wait and see I guess.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I heard back from Just Kampers. It is discontinued. They said whom ever produced the wheel made a set number of them and that set number has dried up. They did mention that now that the supply has dwindled the demand will build and perhaps another run will be produced.

So now even the reproduction has become a rarity.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that if your over 6' and spend alot of time with your forearms resting on the wheel it could start flexing a little,same with the banjo style wheel,but damn that vdm wheel is sweet,after seeing that pic i want one even more,and im 6'3"
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

64 ragtop volks wrote:
I think that if your over 6' and spend alot of time with your forearms resting on the wheel it could start flexing a little,same with the banjo style wheel,but damn that vdm wheel is sweet,after seeing that pic i want one even more,and im 6'3"


Me too. I'm 6'3" too, but I almost never drove my bus with my hands on the far side of the wheel. I usually kept them at 4 and 8 o'clock, and tried not to hunch over while driving.

I do love the look of the wheel, But I think it is not a 17" wheel, although I can't seem to find it mentioned anywhere?

Karman Konnection does have them for beetles, but with shipping,tax and import fees it will be over $500 Canadian dollars...I could make one out of carbon fibre and gold leaf for that price. Which is not a bad idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Me too. I'm 6'3" too, but I almost never drove my bus with my hands on the far side of the wheel. I usually kept them at 4 and 8 o'clock, and tried not to hunch over while driving.
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Karman Konnection does have them for beetles, but with shipping,tax and import fees it will be over $500 Canadian dollars...I could make one out of carbon fibre and gold leaf for that price. Which is not a bad idea.

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4 and 8? do you have t-rex arms? Smile

i will definitely check out those carbon fiber and gold leaf wheels
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mandraks wrote:
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Me too. I'm 6'3" too, but I almost never drove my bus with my hands on the far side of the wheel. I usually kept them at 4 and 8 o'clock, and tried not to hunch over while driving.
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Karman Konnection does have them for beetles, but with shipping,tax and import fees it will be over $500 Canadian dollars...I could make one out of carbon fibre and gold leaf for that price. Which is not a bad idea.

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4 and 8? do you have t-rex arms? Smile


That's funny. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's it. I started building the jigs today to make my own.

I am using 3/8" steel rod for the hoops, 1/4" steel for the centre plate that mounts to the hub. Then I will be laying up a carbon fibre and birch hybrid laminated hoop to be placed around the 3/8" rod hoop.

This could be really cool or end up being a big waist of time,,,I'll let you know.
Here is my inspiration for this. http://youtu.be/hbZFpOEi_sI and this http://youtu.be/wNB7XcpNAWs


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the rumors are true. I contacted the manufacturer in Malaysia and they have discontinued the steering wheel due to low demand and some warranty related issues they've had with the wheels.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordo-Here is some further inspiration-
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Made by me in my garage using only hand tools. I'm trying to get the Porsche crest horn button I made from a cut down 3-prong cap to work on this wheel. It already fits in the stock wheel.

Anyway, please post loads of pics. We love seeing how stuff is done.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very cool steering wheel. Nice work.

I have been PMed by a couple people saying that they have heard of some breakage issues with that DVM repo, so I am moving ahead with trying to make my own version.
I have taken a bunch of pics, but my camera was set to the wrong size and I can't upload them...I will take more.
I have read two people's thesis' about the development and implementing of hybrid bamboo/carbon fibre , regarding the strengths, and it seems like the way to go. It will still have a core of 1/4" and 3/8" steel. I bought a ring bender which works very well for making the hoop a perfect circle. The lay-up jig is router into a piece of MDF to aid in the entering of the hub plate.

I will soon be at the cutting and laminating stage. I will post pics at that time.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flemcadiddlehopper wrote:
very cool steering wheel. Nice work.

I have been PMed by a couple people saying that they have heard of some breakage issues with that DVM repo, so I am moving ahead with trying to make my own version.
I have taken a bunch of pics, but my camera was set to the wrong size and I can't upload them...I will take more.
I have read two people's thesis' about the development and implementing of hybrid bamboo/carbon fibre , regarding the strengths, and it seems like the way to go. It will still have a core of 1/4" and 3/8" steel. I bought a ring bender which works very well for making the hoop a perfect circle. The lay-up jig is router into a piece of MDF to aid in the entering of the hub plate.

I will soon be at the cutting and laminating stage. I will post pics at that time.

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you can easily resize or resample your pictures for upload. If you are on windows: use "irfanview", it is free and awesome. That way you can take pictures at best quality, just transfer them to your pc and adjust the size there.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mandraks wrote:
flemcadiddlehopper wrote:
very cool steering wheel. Nice work.

I have been PMed by a couple people saying that they have heard of some breakage issues with that DVM repo, so I am moving ahead with trying to make my own version.
I have taken a bunch of pics, but my camera was set to the wrong size and I can't upload them...I will take more.
I have read two people's thesis' about the development and implementing of hybrid bamboo/carbon fibre , regarding the strengths, and it seems like the way to go. It will still have a core of 1/4" and 3/8" steel. I bought a ring bender which works very well for making the hoop a perfect circle. The lay-up jig is router into a piece of MDF to aid in the entering of the hub plate.

I will soon be at the cutting and laminating stage. I will post pics at that time.

Gordo.


you can easily resize or resample your pictures for upload. If you are on windows: use "irfanview", it is free and awesome. That way you can take pictures at best quality, just transfer them to your pc and adjust the size there.


No, sorry...just switched to new iMac is the real issue with the pics. I thought I was doing well just to find them again.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I have sorted the photo issues (I think) and can post some pics now of where I am at with this wheel idea.

I found a source for Bamboo planks and received 1 blonde and 1 carbonized (dark) plank for a Christmas present. I borrowed my Brother-in-laws tables and built the feather boards needed to rip the thin strips of bamboo.
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I have built the bent lamination form jig. Note it is two pieces to ease with separating the formed lamination from the jig once the epoxy hardens.
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The hoop jig is only a piece of MDF with the shape router into it so the pieces can sit to be welded.
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Right now I am in the process of cutting the strips to length and tapering the overlap of the ends. Then on to dry assembly for a trial run before any epoxy is applied.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have begun the slow process of cutting each piece to length and tapering the ends for overlap. Each piece must be place over the previous one to be measured,cut. tapered and checked for fit.
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All the overlaps will be spread evenly around the wheel to maintain strength.


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