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SingleWheel Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2004 Posts: 184
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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SingleWheel wrote: |
WOW!!! That is very cool... |
Thanks I hope it all comes together in the end and that I am not just documenting a failed attempt at something cool.
But, onward into the abyss I go.
Here is what the seven layers looks like, still not yet at the actual laminating stage yet.
This is one half of the wheel. I still need to repeat this again, then the internal spokes hoop.
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
Retrograde Garage. Vintage Aircooled, and others. |
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I am still working away at the Bamboo bits of the wheel and the dry assembly before I go to the epoxy stages.
Here is the jig for the pieces that will become the end flanges of the inner spoke. This section is bent laminated to match the main wheel hoop I.D.
I have yet to find a local source for the West System Epoxy. The closest source is Vancouver, B.C., but they sell the Carbon/Kevlar material too so I might as well purchase them from the same source.
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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The Carbon finer cloth and epoxy bits arrived today.
It was expensive so I better make this work.
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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Fredrok Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2014 Posts: 227 Location: Under the evergreens. CO
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Really cool Gordo, many of us watching your progress and admire your ambition! |
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:48 am Post subject: |
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I tried the epoxy out on a few pieces of the bamboo to get an idea of it's properties and cure times given the conditions it is being used in. For this piece I used the epoxy with no fillers added to gauge how it filled minute gaps in the layers.
Here is the same piece after a bit of massaging to see how the layers will look in the finished shape. It was also to see how the epoxy handled sanding and finishing. Really the piece just reacted as though it was a solid piece of bamboo.
I chose the West Systems Epoxy based on it's usage in the boat building community. The 207 hardener is specially formulated to have little or no blush and will harden to a water clear finish. It makes it the best choice for use over wood.
This is left over epoxy that hardened in the container. It is about 1/2" thick and the clarity is amazing.
I will be testing the use of fillers in the epoxy today, then it it onto the real pieces.
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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dawerks Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2010 Posts: 2349
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Nice! And valuable information, thanks! _________________ "There is only one sin; disconnection from self." |
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5969 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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I used that west system epoxy on a 16' cedar boat, it is great stuff, and pretty UV stable. If it is too cold or hot when you mix it, it can cloud a bit, FYI. Between 70-90 seems ideal. |
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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esde wrote: |
I used that west system epoxy on a 16' cedar boat, it is great stuff, and pretty UV stable. If it is too cold or hot when you mix it, it can cloud a bit, FYI. Between 70-90 seems ideal. |
Thanks for that bit of knowledge.
I will keep close tabs on my mixing and applying temps, with some help from Galileo Galilei.
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:54 am Post subject: |
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The first pieces of the steering wheel have been epoxied, clamped and cured overnight. I was a bit anxious this morning taking the clamps off as I was not really sure if the pieces would retain their shape.
Well, I was very pleased with the results. The pieces kept their shape exactly and are extremely rigid, much more so than a solid piece of wood.
Looks as though this thing might actually work after all.
I will begin to laminate the main hoop and the centre flanges today.
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:27 am Post subject: |
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I just popped the first of the hoop sections off the form this morning.
Even the joins in the pieces came out well.
_________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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64 ragtop volks Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2012 Posts: 543 Location: EARTH
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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That's coming along great.cant wait to see it finished.are you making just the one??? |
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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64 ragtop volks wrote: |
That's coming along great.cant wait to see it finished.are you making just the one??? |
Thanks... and yes just one for now...wait and see how it turns out, then plan if others are feasible .
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:30 am Post subject: |
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The last hoop section came off the form this morning. This one came out even better than the first, with very nice joins on the overlap. I added more of the anti-sag filler to the epoxy mixture this time, so the Bamboo strips held more epoxy on them before being clamped.
Now each piece will need to be thickness planed in a milling device using a router. Like this: http://youtu.be/TpU5dZlW2pg
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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At the end of my day at work, I had a few minutes before they turn the lights off on me, so I welded up the metal portion of the wheel.
I tacked each piece while in the jig and flipped it in the jig after each tack to ensure that it did not warp with heat. Then I completed the welds. Seemed to have worked, it's straight.
Now I just need to thickness plane the bamboo bits and begin to fit them together, before I router the groove for the metal core.
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Just this:
http://youtu.be/pXPRzP4_i14
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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TinCanFab Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 2743 Location: Waterford, California
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice work! I can't understand why most repop wheels are missing a steel center? It's like they are designed by people who have never driven a car. The hard part is getting the style, shape and the casting mold to be a close copy, but how hard is it to pour in the plastic around a steel ring?
Anyway, it's a good thing because you are going to be much happier with your well thought out creation _________________ Check out my truck brought back from the dead... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=420762&highlight=sprayed+blood
They're never really ever finished 58 rag build...
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Ran When Parked Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2013 Posts: 781 Location: Birmingham, AL
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:27 pm Post subject: Cool |
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Nice work. |
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Well all along I thought I was building a copy of a copy of a VDM steering wheel... But, like in sculpting, when they say," the sculpture is in the material, you just have to let it out" ..... Mine was let out.....
Anyone for some Kool-Aid ? really it is not a "Cult" thing.
Gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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'69Custom Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2008 Posts: 2497 Location: Ventura, California
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:23 am Post subject: |
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_________________ -Tim
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1965 Ford Mustang
:2gunfire: F-U-M-P!
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Please excuse any typos as my iPhone doesn't speak English very well.
tham64 wrote: |
Why tune a big round again and again????? For me.... 1 hour will solve the case |
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