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kooldub Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2004 Posts: 259 Location: ColoRADo
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:11 pm Post subject: My 68 fastback subaru ej22 conversion |
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started this project in june of 2013 but had been building it in my head and reading up on it for SEVERAL years. I live in the mountains and work in town and my drive is 110 miles roundtrip and elevation changes from over 9000ft to 5200ft. I really enjoy driving my vdubs, so to me, it made sense to do the conversion. I already have about 1000 miles on the finished product. it runs great, very responsive. still a few odds and ends to work on (winter project) but I wanted to drive it as much as possible before winter. Here's some pics, some maybe out of order... enjoy
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68 Fastaru
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kooldub Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2004 Posts: 259 Location: ColoRADo
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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more info... stock ECU, using stock subie radiator. running 1.25in stainless steel pipes under the pan. used misc flexible coolant tubing from the radiator to the pipes then from the pipes to the engine. using airtek fuel pump mounted in the stock t3 location. cut and shortened a stock subie header (reversed). still need to shorten the oil sump. bought the whole 92 legacy for $500, bought a used kennedy adapter and clutch for $400, radiator pipes and misc tubing about $200, $65 for new fuel pump, buddy "chopped" the wiring for $300 plus probably another $3-400 in misc stuff... _________________ 64 Notchback
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Nate M. Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2003 Posts: 1306 Location: Anacortes, WA U.S.A.
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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I like it!! Congrats on getting it done. _________________ Regards,
Nate M.
Squarsche build
Heavy Metal Affliction feature
For heaven's sake, put a type4 and a Porsche 5-speed in there. . . It's the right thing to do!! |
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kooldub Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2004 Posts: 259 Location: ColoRADo
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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much thanks nate! you, clatter, brent, bobnotchs (to name a few) builds helped motivate me. you guys have some skills (and patience) and the finish product shows! well, clatters getting there... and of course aussie joel for all his postings... _________________ 64 Notchback
68 Fastaru
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vwfye Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2000 Posts: 7661
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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did you shorten the pan or is it just careful driving for now?? _________________ 64 No'back Speedster "Pearl"
1980s Sand Dragster "The Plunger"
LME "Little Giant Killer 3" |
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asesapie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 756 Location: Spokane, WA
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Nice work on dropping a subaru motor in there. I'm wondering about the oil pan as well. Do you come close to hitting it at all? |
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kooldub Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2004 Posts: 259 Location: ColoRADo
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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I have not shortened the oil pan yet. and actually, I am on my second oil pan as it scraps only when I gas it hard otherwise its about 3 inches off the ground.
winter to do list: shorted oil pan, kafer bar/mid trans mount, squareback rear torsion bars... _________________ 64 Notchback
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Sqrbckguy38 Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2004 Posts: 415 Location: Tooele, ut
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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I really like this. It looks damn awesome, and I plan on doing this to my 70 fasty so my daughter can drive it, it's what she wanted. Looks really good again. _________________ It's not the fall that hurts, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.
69 Square needs love, even after 15 years
70 Fasty former dd, now my daughter's
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22422 Location: Kimball, Mi
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kooldub Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2004 Posts: 259 Location: ColoRADo
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:39 am Post subject: |
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thanks for the kind words y'all. the fastback just seemed to be a "prefect" match for the subie motor...
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34012 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:27 am Post subject: |
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I'm generally not a fan of these conversions, mainly because they are often hacks and unreliable.
But this one was done right... just a few things like the pan to deal with. Looks well engineered, though I would try to avoid the intrusion into the trunk somehow.
Best thing is, especially if you raise it back just a bit, is that it is almost undetectable from the outside. That is, until you put the hammer down! |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Nothing wrong with having a big engine in the trunk since you still have lots of room up front for luggage. I like it! _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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69 Notchback Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2011 Posts: 714 Location: Bailey Co
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Im not a big fan of any converrsion into a VW but after driving this car I canot stop . I want one now it is so smoth and runs so well. We live in the rockies of Colorado and Kris kills the steap hills while i fade in the distance in my stocke 1600 squareback. this car is so fast it blowes me away! Awsome job Kris.... |
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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KTPhil wrote: |
I'm generally not a fan of these conversions, mainly because they are often hacks and unreliable.
But this one was done right... just a few things like the pan to deal with. Looks well engineered, though I would try to avoid the intrusion into the trunk somehow.
Best thing is, especially if you raise it back just a bit, is that it is almost undetectable from the outside. That is, until you put the hammer down! |
LOL!
its the other way around. _________________ The best of VW engine development!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g
71 Aussie notchback, the money pit
92 VP vacationer, old faithful never die
95 VR executive, Restored beyond factory
92 VP S Pack, bought it new old |
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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hey mate, try one of these for your sump.
http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29943
not sure what gearbox you are running. worth looking into these.
bolt in virtually, no more adapter plates needed, 5 speed and correct ratios that were designed for those engines.
http://subarugears.com/
not sure where your intake is pulling the air from? you got any inlets to let air into the compartment since it seems to be completely sealed in there?
EDIT: my bad, i see the old ECU panel is removed for the air inlet.
Also might add, well worth having custom set of headers made for it. the factory ones are an absolute brain fart moment courtesy of the engineering department. You will gain a descent amount of power replacing the stock one.
The secondary runner merge is a shocker! Don't know how they managed to approve that for manufacturing supposedly a performance car lol _________________ The best of VW engine development!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g
71 Aussie notchback, the money pit
92 VP vacationer, old faithful never die
95 VR executive, Restored beyond factory
92 VP S Pack, bought it new old |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34012 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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vlad01 wrote: |
KTPhil wrote: |
I'm generally not a fan of these conversions, mainly because they are often hacks and unreliable.
But this one was done right... just a few things like the pan to deal with. Looks well engineered, though I would try to avoid the intrusion into the trunk somehow.
Best thing is, especially if you raise it back just a bit, is that it is almost undetectable from the outside. That is, until you put the hammer down! |
LOL!
its the other way around. |
I don't mean the engine core, it's all the little bits and adapters that, if not done right, cause grief later. This one looks right. |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7544 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Way to finish it up and run it!
That's got to be a lot of fun... _________________ Bus Motor Build
What’s That Noise?!? |
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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KTPhil wrote: |
vlad01 wrote: |
KTPhil wrote: |
I'm generally not a fan of these conversions, mainly because they are often hacks and unreliable.
But this one was done right... just a few things like the pan to deal with. Looks well engineered, though I would try to avoid the intrusion into the trunk somehow.
Best thing is, especially if you raise it back just a bit, is that it is almost undetectable from the outside. That is, until you put the hammer down! |
LOL!
its the other way around. |
I don't mean the engine core, it's all the little bits and adapters that, if not done right, cause grief later. This one looks right. |
ok, yeah I thought you meant in general the lot of it.
Still even half assed conversion imo have been more reliable than most vw _________________ The best of VW engine development!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g
71 Aussie notchback, the money pit
92 VP vacationer, old faithful never die
95 VR executive, Restored beyond factory
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:04 am Post subject: |
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The KCW notch w/911 flat 6 & 3 barrel Zenith carburetors still has to be my favorite in this category. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:58 am Post subject: |
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I'm yet to see anyone do an EZ30 or EZ36 conversion in type 3.
220hp and 245hp out of the box with stock tune and externals, only fraction more weight than EJ25. about 100kg less than say a 964 3.2L _________________ The best of VW engine development!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g
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92 VP vacationer, old faithful never die
95 VR executive, Restored beyond factory
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