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TL Jer
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EverettB 
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Randall
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That is a vintage photo but it doesn't quite qualify as 'cool' since there may have been an unhappy ending to that crash -- other than the car being destroyed.  Maybe the occupant(s) were wearing seat belts. I see two seat belt straps. One is hanging out from where the rear window used to be. It is attached to the roof support next to the knob that allows the rear side window to be opened. Less than one foot of the other seat belt strap is seen emerging below the front door sill.
My '63 Notch originally had a front seat belt that attached to the bottom of the post separating the front door from the rear side window; the anchor bolt is at the height of the top of the seat back. The strap it buckled to is anchored to the tunnel near the rear of the seat rail. (All early Type 3 have those bolts in those locations.) Instead of running from hip to hip across the pelvis like a seat belt should, it ran from the right hip, across the left ribcage, and underneath the left arm to the anchor bolt on the doorpost. In the event of a severe frontal crash your hips would slide forward underneath the seat belt. This was a poor design but it predated the mandatory installation of seat belts in US sold cars.
In the early 1990s I had new bolt anchors welded to the area just above the floor adjacent to the rear of the left seat rail for the driver's seat and also at the corresponding location for the passenger's seat. They look like these from Wolfsburg West: http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=ZVW20PLUG So now each front seat has a strap across the pelvis and one across the chest. The one across the chest tends to slip down below my shoulder because the bolt on the doorpost is lower than the top of my shoulder. |
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KTPhil
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| Yes, those single diagonal belts were shown to almost be worse than no belt at all, and worse than any lap belt! My brother's Euro '67 Bug had them and we swapped them out for regular seat belts. |
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thom
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t3kg
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Tram
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Judging from old snapshots it looks like Type 34s really appealed to a certain kind of hausfrau back in the day... |
Frau HELLga.
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Gizmobob
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Ironically, the only part that looks salvageable are the "Oh-Shit" Straps! 
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EverettB
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Mexicant
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Erik G
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Tram
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already has a frown face bumper
bunch of buses too |
Funny thing about "frown face" bumpers on first- design cars...
Almost all these cars had them back then- front and rear. It just seemed to be the way they'd normally gravitate... slight tip down on the curved ends. I've always been one to notice stupid little details like this.
It wasn't till I started on here that I "learned" wrong bracket position causes this- but when I was noticing it being the "norm", these cars were just 5- 8 years old and all original, so that almost certainly cannot be the case.
I just figured it was part of the Type 3's badass look.
Today, you hardly ever see it. I guess people are more OCD about their bumpers being straight.
The one in this pic actually looks like it's doinked and bent, though, as the "frown" is uneven.
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KTPhil
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| Sunroof model with a red Plexiglas air deflector? |
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Tram
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| Sunroof model with a red Plexiglas air deflector? |
Yup- a Euro "Zubehorist" (accessorizer- not dealer or factory approved) unit that goes all the way across and fastens to the rain gutter right across the top of the windshield- see it?
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