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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:54 am    Post subject: A carrot by any other name Reply with quote

So I've recently had a debate come up.

Upon finding out that my "Carrot" was actually supposed to be pronounced with a German flourish (the "Ka-Rot)" I've run into a serious question about pronunciation.

The (very Midwestern) front desk guy at the local 'Dub shop I go to call it a "Van-a-Gone"

Observers and curious onlookers often ask me about my "Van-iggen"

I normally refer to it as my "van-a-gunn"

How the hell are you actually supposed to say it? It seems to be one of those words that is used infrequently enough in daily conversation that everyone I've met has a different pronunciation of it. The older VW folks I've run in to tend to lean towards "Van-a-gone" but that still seems odd to me given that most people don't pronounce the word "wagon" as "wa-gone"

The guy in this super 80's dealer promo video seems to demonstrate that "Van-a-gone" seems to be the correct way but it still just feels too weird to me.

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How do you say it?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: A carrot by any other name Reply with quote

Sixray wrote:
...I normally refer to it as my "van-a-gunn"...


Me too. So, of course, you're right.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go - ...........
2007 - http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=221217&highlight=pronounce
2010 - http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=441342&highlight=pronounce

Don't suspect the pronunciation has changed much.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think the Vanagon name is pretty stupid. They should've just kept it as a Transporter globally...but I've always pronounced it as van-a-gun
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me the name Vanagon makes sense.
Its a shape; for example: an eight sided shape is an "octagon" or a five-sided a "pentagon" whereas the van we know and love is a "Vanagon".
But I tend not to pronounce it this literal way rather as "Vanagain" or something similar.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me it depends on usage.

"Time to use the Vanagain."

Or if my friends ask, "where has the Vanagone?"

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had to stop the video when I heard the Van-again "handles like a sedan".

Question

Was the typical sedan (not talking BMW and the like I suppose) from the mid 80's - early 90's really that ...sloppy? Maybe 'soft' is a better adjective. I know it's another sales pitch, but...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Van-ah-gun is how I say it. And the handling, at least the tin-tops, is very good for a vehicle of its size and compared to almost any American car of he same vintage. My brothers dodge kind of felt like a ship going over swells as it went down the highway, soft suspension is an understatement.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sea_sick wrote:
...Was the typical sedan (not talking BMW and the like I suppose) from the mid 80's - early 90's really that ...sloppy?


Yeah. Don't think imports, think Ford LTD or Chrysler New Yorker.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a Carat
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was in college, I followed one of my school mates through a tight S curve on ramp at some considerable speed, which impressed him immensely. He was driving his lowered Volvo 240 wagon with a 5.0L Ford V8 and full IPD suspension, and I was in my '88 GL with Carat springs. I've never driven a big utility vehicle that handles as well as the late model tintops. It's still a stupid name
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
Personally, I think the Vanagon name is pretty stupid. They should've just kept it as a Transporter globally...but I've always pronounced it as van-a-gun


Agree, the "Vanagon" name is pretty weak. Must have been a late Friday for the VAG marketing team to make a final naming decision. "It's a van... how about van..van..vantastic?! van-a-saurus?.. no no!.. van-a-guun...! Genius. Lets go home people."

Fixed mine. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, lame - should have been Van-ferg-nugen
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Orygun, therefore it's Vanagun. No such state called Oregone, therefore our Westy cannot be a Vanagone.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a multivan was a Carat in the US, What's a carat badged as?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grist fer y'alls' mill:

wan·i·gan noun \ˈwä-ni-gən\
Definition of WANIGAN

: a shelter (as for sleeping, eating, or storage) often mounted on wheels or tracks and towed by tractor or mounted on a raft or boat

Variants of WANIGAN
wan·i·gan or wan·ni·gan

Origin of WANIGAN
Ojibwa wa·nikka·n pit
First Known Use: circa 1848

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wanigan

I wonder if the Ojibway of the 1840's just didn't have a word for "money".
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a van. its a wagon. Its a vanagon.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I call it a Vana-gone but again, after 13 years in this country, I still cannot shake off my Spanish accent, which has led me to some memorable pronunciation mistakes like " I love Californian bitches (beaches)" or "pass me that shit (sheet)" or "I'm unich (unique)"

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madspaniard wrote:
I call it a Vana-gone but again, after 13 years in this country, I still cannot shake off my Spanish accent, which has led me to some memorable pronunciation mistakes like " I love Californian bitches (beaches)" or "pass me that shit (sheet)" or "I'm unich (unique)"

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Unich


Very nice Mad, very nice.
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