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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:57 pm Post subject: Details on 1953 single cab air cleaner |
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I am wondering how the air cleaner bowl is held to the intake tube.
I have what I believe to be, an original early '53 ( 25hp) cleaner setup for my July 53 SC but I can't figure out how it will keep together, I have no straps or clamps. it looks like this one mentioned in another topic.
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there are no straps visible either.
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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here's what I have, it just falls to pieces
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Thanx a lot Everett. I just checked my cleaner. Stupid me! I never ever turned mine over because of the oil inside. Mine is missing the wing bolt, but no problem to fix something for it. looks like a winged nut like on the seats, I have plenty of those, together with threaded stock will make a nice as stock bolt. _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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EA57RHD Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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That was a brain fart moment
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D-train Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:50 am Post subject: |
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2 different styles too, one like the pic everett posted and one like this
an the other like this
see the round pressings compared to the straight ones? _________________ shiny paint doesnt make it worth any more |
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:02 am Post subject: |
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thx for the additional info, I have the second style.
yeah sometimes it would be better thinking before talking...
I have been wondering about that bloody detail for 6 months now, without ever turning it upside down, owing to the mess of oily sludge inside. all the other ( and they are plenty ) of VW aircleaners I worked on over the past 20 yrs had clamps or straps, so I didn't even bother to think about anything different...shame on me _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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Panelvan Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:45 am Post subject: |
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I have a round pressings with N° 26A.08.25
And KNECHT L8 603
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D-train Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:18 am Post subject: |
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that looks more like the one in the pic, the wingnut ones could be wrong _________________ shiny paint doesnt make it worth any more |
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Panelvan Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:55 am Post subject: |
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I think wingnut is good
Any idea about the straight ones are for ? year ? model ? Any ref or N°? _________________ http://rascal.skynetblogs.be/ |
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Here is some detail on the wing nut rod for the bowl:
The rod:
Measurements:
Rod is M6.
Total rod length: 125mm
Ring distance from the wing nut end: 65mm
Thread length at wing nut end: 8mm
Thread length at pointed end: 25mm (includes length to tip)
(Seen as distance from 100mm to 125mm in photo above)
Wing nut head width (total): 30mm
Here is the clip in place so the rod does not fall out:
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D-train Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:59 am Post subject: |
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thats interesting ev, both my ones have the 261-129-611 part number on them, and they are one of each.
bith are missing the retainer clip, but not hard to get one on there to secure it. _________________ shiny paint doesnt make it worth any more |
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Look-a-here !
I am so glad the PO and I kept all the loose nuts and bolts, so I found the original winged stud among them.
The ltters and numbers are the same as on panelvan's.
my air cleaner came with a July 53 truck and is believed to be original.
Probably another stupid question, but anybody knows the part to the left of the air cleaner ? _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Everett, D train and Panelvan, what are the Years of your trucks ? obviously
panelvan's and my cleaner are of the same style and D train's and Everett's are. I reckon Everett, it's from a 55 truck ? thanx for getting the details on the stud. I can compare the dimensions with the stud from my cleaner, maybe they are different too.
ed: just reread and panelvan stated 3.53 _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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Brian_1952 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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these are two that I've had in the past I actually still on the early one for my truck _________________ (20-024785)Ambulance (20-037784)truck (20-035850)panel
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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djfordmanjack wrote: |
Everett, D train and Panelvan, what are the Years of your trucks ? obviously panelvan's and my cleaner are of the same style and D train's and Everett's are. I reckon Everett, it's from a 55 truck ? thanx for getting the details on the stud. I can compare the dimensions with the stud from my cleaner, maybe they are different too. |
I do not have a truck, these are just loose air cleaners I own or have owned.
I believe the 26A one is from a Barndoor Truck but the other air cleaner may be from a later Bus since the wing nut air cleaners were used on all Buses for a while after the Barndoor era.
Some changes from Progressive Refinements are below.
Change from 2-piece pipe like what Brian posted above to the solid pipe:
End of wing nut air cleaner:
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