Pan / frame head picture needed

[pondoras box]

I did a search of the gallery and of the forums and cant find the exact picture that I am looking for and hoping for some assistance.

I need a few pictures of the frame head area. Details that would be helpful are as follows.

1. Area of the end of the tunnel with the frame head completely removed from the bottom of the car, essentially what does the front end of the bottom plate look like with the frame head removed.

2. Pictures of the junction of the frame head to tunnel without the Napoleon's Hat installed.

3. Detailed pictures of the junction of the frame head, napoleon's hat, and front edge of the floor pan.

I just want to get everything layered correctly so that it fits properly and looks right, this area was extremely rusted so before pictures of my car are pretty useless. This is my first frame head replacement and want to get it right.

Any help that you can provide would be very helpful!
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Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.

1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda)
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk

[grandpa pete]

Early or late ; there are two different ones .......65 down and 66 up
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63 two fold rag
66 sedan delivery Type 6

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569619&highlight=sedan+delivery

[pondoras box]

Its for a 67 with ball joint front end, but the pictures I need could come off a link pin car also and still be relevant, so don't be shy if you have a 64 or earlier.
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Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.

1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda)
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk

[mkparker]

This is the best I can do.

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Michael


Pit Boy 6163 Spec Trophy Truck

[fla2smoker]

Here is with the bottom plate removed on my 66 (ball joint frame head)

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View my 66 build thread here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=507996

[pondoras box]

Actually the last picture is very helpful thanks!
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Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.

1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda)
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk

[pondoras box]

After looking at Mkparkers pictures I am wondering if I shouldn't separate my replacement pan head and install it in two pieces kind of like the factory did. It would make the pieces easier to handle and install straight.

Any suggestions? It is surprising how little documentation of this process there is on here, either that or my search skills suck, which is a very real possibility. Nothing on it on the bug me series either.
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Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.

1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda)
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk

[grandpa pete]

[pondoras box]

No build thread on this one yet, it is a 67 that is so rusty most would throw it away, but it is my sons first car that he paid for himself so we are going to do it.

Not rich but I am playing the lottery so one day......

I have been taking pictures but my camera is not the best and I would rather buy VW parts than a new camera, that whole not being rich thing applies here. But I am concerned that I may inadvertently mislead someone with any mistake I make.

I have always believed that if someone else can do it then I can at least try, so here I go!

So if you guys want a build thread that would make a staunch atheist pray for help let me know.
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Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.

1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda)
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk

[EA812]

Build thread! And just tune out the hecklers 😁

[Aussiebug]

Pandoras box

You might find this link useful too. A friend of mine in Queensland Australia has cut several bugs apart through the tunnel so you can see how all the parts fit together (old cars destined for the scrap yard folks - nothing worth repairing).

The pics of a 63 include the front end of the tunnel and the frame head area.

http://www.vwdcqinc.org.au/insideabug-insideabug_63type1
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Rob
Rob and Dave's aircooled VW pages
Repairs and maintenance for the home mechanic
http://www.vw-resource.com

[pondoras box]

To EA812 possibly in the future I will start posting but be warned I am not a pro but at least I work slow.

To aussiebug those pictures are super helpful, see if your friend will let you post them up here in their respective categories. I am sure I am not the only one who could use them.
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Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.

1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda)
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk

[tb03830]