Crash pics

mtnroads · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:49 am Post subject: Crash pics

my youngest son Forrest had some control issues! He walked away unhurt but the car did not servive. I witnessed the crash as we were taking dads buggy back to him after Forrest had used it for a few days. I was following him in my car. And yes we were going too fast!

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jspbtown · Samba Member Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5156

Buggies can be rebuilt...lives can't.

Glad everyone is OK.

And let me be the first to say.....That will buff out Very Happy

grinNbarritt · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:18 am Post subject:

Bummer! Glad to hear he's ok. Is it just the front end damage that happend or rear fender happen to?

Dale M. · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:29 am Post subject:

Ouch!...

Dale
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wythac · Samba Member Joined: August 02, 2004 Posts: 2791

Looks like there was a worse fate available (trees, a drop off) just on the other side of the road...I'd say if you had to crash, you got about the best outcome possible...nobody hurt.

The body isnt beyond repair. Many here have done more with less. Hard to tell about the pan.

Perhaps having junior get involved in making it right might accomplish both a fixed dunebuggy and an increased respect for consequences.

Dale M. · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:54 pm Post subject:

Last picture with broken air cleaner, crooked roll bar (alignment with windshield), body crack, pretty much tells me body may have to come off and pan need to be checked for straight...

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Roys_Big_Toys · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:53 pm Post subject:

It still looks better than mine, when I got it. It's fixable. Glad everyone is OK.
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grinNbarritt · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:41 pm Post subject:

Maybe this could turn into a fun 3 generation repair job. I would of loved it if my dad n grampa n I all woulda been interested in same thing and could jump on it n get something fixed. Jim

mtnroads · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:41 am Post subject:

here are a few teardown pics

yep it was pretty scary, he hung the tail out comming over the hill, then overcorrected, shot up the bank. while sliding accross the bank the left front wheel caught a large rock embedded in the dirt. car stood up on the rear bumper and did a 1.5 turn piroett on the rear bumper. fell over on its side (drivers) and then flopped back wheels down. Forrest says the scariest part for him is when the battery ripped out of the body and flew right in front of his face. the frame head was torn away on one side and while sitting on 3 wheels the drivers side of the beam was a couple of inches higher on the drivers side. engine, trans and rear wheels were about the only parts that went into new buggy for dad.
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Dale M. · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:41 am Post subject:

About the battery..... POSITIVE HOLD DOWNS..... This is one thing we stress in auto-x tech inspections.... Just because its big, heavy and full or acid and can cause real damage....

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slalombuggy · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:49 am Post subject:

Glad the battery didn't hit your son. I see a steel support welded to the torsion tube in your future.

brad

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Wetstuff · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:16 am Post subject:

Dale, Post a pic of a 'positive hold down'. We make all learn something from this accident.

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Dale M. · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:51 am Post subject:

This is what I did on street car build... Has four flat head machine screws through bottom of plate into bodies battery box bottom.... Put "fender washers" under body to prevent pull through.... Bolts that hold bar in place are 5/16 Stainless (corrosion resistant) and locking nuts... Also 1/8 in. rubber pad (sheet material) under battery and hold down bar...

OR you can get some ideas here...

http://images.lmgtfy.com/?q=battery+bracket

On my race car I made square frame out of 3/4 angle that fit top of battery without contacting posts, and used 2 3/8 all-thread to secure to body and ran a strap under box to "connect" the two all-thread so they would not be able to "pull through" body (nuts on both side of body so rods would not drop out - makes them like solid anchor studs) ... Put wing nuts on tops of rods for easy removal, and just to take a stab at tech inspectors "safety wired" wing nuts... Sorry don't have a pic of race car installation...

Dale
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joescoolcustoms · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:59 am Post subject:

I was hesitant to open this thread due to not knowing a outcome. But glad to see your son is in good health. The buggy is fixable.

NHRA and IHRA rules call for 2 - 3/8 bolts holding the battery in with a strap over the battery, just like what Dale shows. I used to think it was overkill until I saw some wrecks and the battery's flopped out.
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tgodber · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:46 pm Post subject:

Glad that there were no injuries to your son.

Both my buggies are dear to me. I don't let many people drive them. That includes family.
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andygere · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:35 pm Post subject:

Glad everyone is safe, and it's good to see you getting right back at it and getting the "upgrades" started.

slalombuggy · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:55 pm Post subject:

My batteries have always sat in a 1x1 angle steel frame welded to either the torsion housing or the chassis with 3/8 ros and a steel bar across the top. Even fender washers will pull through glass. I like knowing my battery will stay put no matter what.

brad

mtnroads · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:44 pm Post subject:

if you look at the tear down pics you can see the batt well is missing the bottom, i belive the p.o. cut out the bottom to clear trailing arm. the battery was still bolted to plywood bottom that had been fiberglassed in. tore away from body and inspection revealed a very poor glass job. p.s. did i mention that my dad had only had the buggy for about 2 months before this happened. My dad was PI$$ED! and yes Forrest was very involved in the replacment rbuild. hey Dale nice hold down!
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Dale M. · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:51 am Post subject:

I had issues in race car of battery box hitting IRS arm also, cut about two inches off bottom of box and glassed in new bottom (making sure glass work was proper).....

People who do not take time to learn about fiberglass work cause more grief, and its so simple once you understand process... Only thing I don't like about glass work is the finishing (grinding and sanding)...

Dale
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