-AN Fittings Brands and Tricks?

[Clatter]

About to bust my cherry with -AN fittings...
Always used rubber to good effect, but this next build is going to the next level.

Russel, Earles, Summit...
Does the brand matter?
Is one better than the rest?

They are standardized, right? You can mix brands?

Looks like those aluminum wrenches are worth getting, at $10 or so,

But what about the Koul Tools push-together tool at about $75?
Would that be worth getting for to do only one car?
You might cuss a bit, but they go together without, right?

Never thought I'd succumb to the bling...

What advice would you give an -AN newbie?
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[JasonBaker]

Bump for more info.
I have no answers, but it would be nice if people with EXPERIENCE would comment with FACTS and this thread could be made into a stickie!

[risk]

Aeroquip all the way.

I would stay away from the bargain brands like summit or jegs. The ones I have used tend to leak eventually. Mixing brands of ends and hose is asking for trouble. It will work, but again, eventually it will leak. Also if you are going with the blue/red fittings or any other color, they won't be an exact match if you mix brands.

I did my fuel lines, oil pressure lines, turbo supply/drain, and case pcv vent lines.. It was not cheap. If I had it to do over, I would have done all black fittings and black hose, push locks.

Here is how I assemble my hoses..

http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35237&highlight=fittings

[cjsuner]

Tools: I didn't use any special ones. I used my sheet metal cutter to get through the braided lines, be sure to use duct tape around the lines before cutting though, otherwise you won't get a clean cut with the braids.

And than i just used an adjustable wrench for tightening everything together, no need for special ones.
I am useing the summit brand fittings, them seem to work fine, no leaks or anything, but then again, i just got the new engine in, so not many miles on it.

I am useing -AN 8 size lines

[jason]

I have used lots of different ones. They are different brand to brand so use the same brand at the hose up until the AN part. Hope that makes sense. I use a sharp chisel and an aluminum block to cut the hoses, cutting wheels make a mess. I only use the teflon hose though. Much easier to work with. Cut, slide end over SS, put ferrule on, insert hose end and tighten. Just be careful to not over tighten. Aluminum wrench helps to not scratch the anodizing but still does if not careful. You can use a regular wrench if you go easy.

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[tattooed_pariah]

I plumbed my car from gas tank to carbs last summer. no special tools..

bought my hoses and ends from http://gandjaircraft.net/ (I lived about 35 minutes away from them at the time so I went to their shop..) and it was pretty simple..

I wrapped the hose with electrical tape and used a cut-off wheel in a dremel to cut through, wrapped the fitting in a shop rag and snugged it down in a vise then carefully inserted the hose..

One or two gave me some trouble, but you get a feel for it and the rest are easy.

my chain went as follows: AN fitting on bottom of tank, hose to 65 micron filter, hose to electric pump, direct connection to regulator, hose through the heater channel (no heat in my car) to a bulkhead fitting on the firewall, hose to t-fitting, hoses to carbs.

easy-peasy..
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[vwracerdave]

On my 2276 in the Ghia I used all Jeg's black fittings and black nylon braided hose. No leaks and no special tools needed.

You need to use plenty of lubricant (WD-40) to assemble the ends on the hose, and you must clean out the hose after assembly to remove any wire slivers and debris.

AN-6 for fuel lines and AN-8 for oil lines.
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[Clatter]

Dag, just spent a whole day digging through Jegs and Summit.

Starting with Aeroquip, just cause..

The AQP hose means rubber with braided stainless shell,
But PTFE means Teflon, with the same, AFAICT...

The Teflon is only like four more bucks for a 15' length,
Is rated at 3000PSI vs. 1000PSI, and 450F vs. 300F.

So, seems like a no-brainer to use the Teflon vs. rubber.
Teflon lasts longer, too, right?

The fittings seem to cost the same for each.

Is there something I'm missing as to why anyone wouldn't want to use Teflon?



Thanks for all of the input, guys.
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[raul arrese]

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[esde]

I mix and match brands all of the time, and the only ones that don't work well are the cheap chinese ones from Ebay. Jegs, Summit, Russel, Aeroquip, all have clean machining, and work well together for me. I use a grinder to cut the hose. Wrap where you're going to cut with some electrical tape, it keeps the end from fraying. After the cut, rinse with some thinner, and blow out with air, alternating a few times. To finish I usually push a small piece or rag through with a tig rod. For assembly, I leave a few wraps of the tape on until I get the hose started into the collar, then I carefully peel it out. Yes I have stabbed the hell out of my hands this way..

[Clatter]

[Clatter]

[Clatter]

The Aeroquip StartLite hose looks pretty sweet...
http://www.jegs.com/i/Aeroquip/023/FBU0600/10002/-1?parentProductId=

It's Kevlar braided covering is lighter than the stainless, and easier to work with.
Doesn't seem to cost _that_ much more, either.
And,
Well,
I'll admit it.
The black braided hose cover with the red tracer woven in would look bitchen on my black car with the red details....


It's all AQP stuff - rubber - not Teflon.
Doh!
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[raul arrese]

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[vwracerdave]

[Lo Cash John]

Special tools:

Bench vise that's BOLTED down, not just sitting on the bench
Aluminum "angle iron" pieces to use as vice jaw pads (protects anodizing)
Electrical tape
Sharpie
Measuring tape
Cutting tool (I use cut off wheels, either electric or air)
Band aids, lots of band aids.

I've used Earl's, Fragola, AeroQuip and Summit and pleased with all. If I was pushing the hose to its design limits I would stick with premium brands but for 99% of automotive applications the Summit stuff is fine.
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