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Syncroincity
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The transmission is flippable?
Which way is it oriented in the B5? |
It is flippable, done fairly often in Europe, but you end up with some extreme angles on your CV joints, as the outputs are at the bottom of the trans in normal config. and on top when flipped.
The B5 is a longitudinal setup, both 2WD and AWD versions. The B5 (98-05) Passat is an Audi wearing a cheap suit.
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240Gordy
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Thanks for the clarification.
Will go back and reread everything with that in mind.
Too bad about the angles
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fraggle00
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| D Clymer wrote: |
Actually, the watercooled series of 911 engines is just as tall as its air-cooled predecessor. Porsche configured the engine around the available space and came up with another tall engine. So, unfortunately, you would have to raise the rear deck for the newer engines too.
Dave |
Too bad! I wonder if you could cheat with a custom intake or some such. I've never had one out to look at how it's put together.
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xoo00oox
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| I personally would never choose a flat engine for this application, but I suspect the bellhousing pattern on those would almost necessitate the use of a modern rear engine Porsche 911 transaxle $$$ |
That Boxtser comes from the factory with the same transmission as a B5 Passat. I've got one in my garage right now that I just bought with a bad engine. I'm considering attempting to bolt a TDi up to it. That would be a cool Boxster. |
Check it out!
Mock up of a tdi in my boxster.
Still not sure if I want to go with a tdi or a 1.8t in this car.
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xoo00oox
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Check it out!
Mock up of a 1.8t in my boxster..
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Zeitgeist 13
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As much as I loves me some TDI, I think that 1.8T would be a better match for the trans gearing, as well as the overall character of the vehicle. Cool project
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levi
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Always something fun happening in East Nassau, NY 
Changing out engines faster than I can get another cup of coffee! Geesh....
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xoo00oox
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| As much as I loves me some TDI, I think that 1.8T would be a better match for the trans gearing, as well as the overall character of the vehicle. Cool project |
Zeit- To me a hot tuned TDi in the sweet Boxster body would be a cool car. I could easily swap the V6 passat transmission in place of the stock Boxster one and it would give me good gearing for the TDi. At 65, it would put RPMs about 200 higher than a stock tdi transmission. Just enough to give it a sporty feel but not too high to ruin the MPGs.
Although I also have a few extra 1.8t engines hanging around. 200hp with a tune compared to 205 stock 2.5 Boxster HP with the advantage of about 150 lbs less weight would be fun.
Levi- Put down that cup of coffee and get to work with your own engine swap, I'm looking forward to seeing that up and running.
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xoo00oox
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| Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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a full year later, i finally made some time for this project.
the engine 1.8t is bolted up to the transmission for good. Going to make this happen soon!!! |
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insyncro
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| Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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You go Andrew 
Looking forward to seeing the Bster run again. |
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chase4food
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| Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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Mine! I have no idea VW has a 5 valve engine. Yamaha made a stir debuting their first 5 valve motorcycle 4-cylinder 4-stroke engine. Was Yamaha the first?
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xoo00oox
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| Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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All the 1.8t engines were 5 valve per cylinder. The U.S. First got them in 1997 Audi A4. I believe Europe had them as early as 1995.
This engine will give me almost the same horse power as the stock Boxster engine and save about 150 lbs. it is also gives me a lot more room to service it. |
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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I wish Porsche would just finally ditch the flat engines once and for all. The 1.8t was the perfect powerplant for these nifty cars from the moment they were conceived.
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chase4food
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| Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| I wish Porsche would just finally ditch the flat engines once and for all. The 1.8t was the perfect powerplant for these nifty cars from the moment they were conceived. |
Are you kidding me? I am very happy that Porsche have stuck to their guns that excellent engineering can almost defy the common wisdom of "sound engineering". Up until circa 2010, very little appreciation was tendered to the Vanagon and the engineers what had worked so hard to overcome the handicap of the rear pancake engine configuration.
Today, the old 911s are commending very high prices, not so much for their performance, but their significance in a chapter of automotive engineering history.
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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I'm cool with the old aircooled 911 flat engines, but once they opted to go full H2O-cooling, they should've just used inlines or vee configurations. Flat engines are a design deadend that require way too much oddball tooling and packaging accoutrements that don't relate to other VAG offerings. The Porsche design and chassis tuning is distinct enough to survive the loss of this vestigially useless limb of an engine configuration pedigree.
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Tristar Eric
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| Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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Awesome project! I was recently on the Renegade hybrids site and saw that they are doing Boxster conversions now. ( V8 crate motors )
The videos look insane.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:12 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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| This engine will give me almost the same horse power as the stock Boxster engine and save about 150 lbs. it is also gives me a lot more room to service it. |
Hmmm, last night my wife said I should get a sports car for my next car as we left a funeral where one friend had a Z4 BMW and the other Mini-S Clubman.
I was telling them about wanting a BMW wagon with a 6-speed for my next ride.
Hmmm, Porsche Boxster with a 1.8T - I think she might even approve, as long as Andrew is doing the swap (Andrew can guess why). Can you fit a bike rack on one? 
Miata was ruled out by her.
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xoo00oox
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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Awesome project! I was recently on the Renegade hybrids site and saw that they are doing Boxster conversions now. ( V8 crate motors )
The videos look insane. |
Thanks Eric, I'm really looking forward to driving this with the 1.8t. Knowing that the engine is very easily and inexpensively repaired, I'll be able to have a lot more fun with it.
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xoo00oox
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon / Boxster engine |
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| This engine will give me almost the same horse power as the stock Boxster engine and save about 150 lbs. it is also gives me a lot more room to service it. |
Hmmm, last night my wife said I should get a sports car for my next car as we left a funeral where one friend had a Z4 BMW and the other Mini-S Clubman.
I was telling them about wanting a BMW wagon with a 6-speed for my next ride.
Hmmm, Porsche Boxster with a 1.8T - I think she might even approve, as long as Andrew is doing the swap (Andrew can guess why). Can you fit a bike rack on one?
Miata was ruled out by her. |
I've also got a 1999 911 C4, I'm looking to sell one or the other, I don't need two Porsches taking up garage space. Let me know if you're interested.
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