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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject: If you installed your own headliner please read. Reply with quote

So I've read all I can find on installing your headliner yourself, and I have a question please.
What is the best adhesive out there. I've watched the video on this site where they use a spray gun and an adhesive. So, are their spray can adhesives that have the same results.
I just do not want to do it twice are be dissatisfied with it over time

I have a 63 ragtop should Ii have somebody else do it?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did mine on my 63 ragtop came out ok,for awhile. Lol. I used some 3m spray glue in a can then some other can spray glue I found at the local auto parts store. The hardest part of the job for me was tucking in the front ( the area above the front windshield ) I didn't have the proper tools for the job. It held up for 3 years or so, then started to sag in places. I don't know if not using enough glue was the issue. But when I re do it I'm going to use a different glue.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used 3M Super 90 spray adhesive. It worked great.
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You don't really need to have someone else do it. I went slow, got Vallone's video, and read and re-read hemifalcon's post a bunch:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=419545&highlight=multipiece+headliner

I don't know if the ragtop makes the job harder or easier.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you use enough clips? Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the 3M Super 90 on my first bug and it seemed fine at first, but heat/cold and a few months and it will separate in areas.

If you really want it to last forever you need to get the Weld wood Adhesive and a adhesive spray gun for it to last (quick links below, need to look up where I bought mine)

Adhesive:
http://www.yourautotrim.com/noname37.html

Gun:
http://www.yourautotrim.com/aespradspgun.html

There is a difference between the 3M stuff and the Weldwood. Weld wood is forever and will rip the paint off of your car/ destroy your headliner of you try to reposition it after correctly following the instructions and cure times. It's really great stuff, but your prep needs to be good and you need to really have a plan and pre-layout for installing your headliner or whatever your going to glue.

If you go through this gallery, the headliner photos, back/middle kick panels, front wheel well covers and rear luggage area panels are where I used the Weldwood adhesive:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/100427926@N02/sets/72157635119659024/

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It's worth it if you are wanting it to last for years in hot and cold weather. After driving the bus a while, there were NO issues with any of the areas where I glued with Weldwood. Stuff is Marine/pro waterproof, illegal in some states good.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fizzbang wrote:
If you really want it to last forever you need to get the Weld wood Adhesive and a adhesive spray gun for it to last


How many years ago did you do this?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

solvent based contact cement (lepages, weldwood, etc) is the way I do it. I've done 5 in the last several years and they have all held up well.

pull it tight, keep it warm with a space heater so it's soft for the entire install and use a lot of clamps


the wifes super back in 04
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my square 5 years ago
pull it tight front to back, and side to side, then work evenly to the corners

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relief cuts

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I have a couple hundred clamps around here now, cheap from the dollar store.

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work towards each corner

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radiant heater

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take your time, wait for the glue to set up, and another pair of hands on the opposite side of the roof to pull it snug is real handyto keep it straight and wrinkle free.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome job! Very Happy
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