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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:04 pm    Post subject: pitman arm issue Reply with quote

When the steering box is bolted up and tie rods aren't hooked up. Would the pitman arm hit the frame head? Because that's what's happening to me. Trying to figure out how much to cut tie rods for the narrowed.

Also the pitman arm is funky. Me nor some of my friends have seen one with ears like mine. Which the ear is the first place that hits. If the ear wasn't there it looks like the arm is real close to the edge of the frame head.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody knows what this funny looking pitman arm is from?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure the Pitman arm limits the steering on any Beetle....it might be the stop on the front wheels that determines the steering lock.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it will hit the frame head with no tie rods. The steering stop is built into the link/king pin carrier (knuckle). There's a spot on the carrier that hits a spindle bolt.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My pitman arm is the same with the knobs.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The steering box is also limited by the worm and roller in the box. I have never had one hit the tunnel though, but your travel is limited by the spindles. Did you have to move the box over when you narrowed the beam 8 inches?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: pitman arm issue Reply with quote

I'd be more concerned with the crack running through your frame head. Do that first then worry about bolt on parts.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: pitman arm issue Reply with quote

As said above, the pitman arm WILL hit the frame head without the tie-rods installed on early king/link pin front ends. Later model (68-77?) ball joint front ends have a stop built into the pitman arm
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: pitman arm issue Reply with quote

My pitman arm is the same (july 1954) with "ears" and as wrote before - the limitation are at the wheels.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: pitman arm issue Reply with quote

Those "lugs" on the Pitman arm were dropped on 8 Feb 1955. In Progressive Refinements, they are called "lifting cams". Their function was to provide a point of leverage for a tie rod end removal tool.
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