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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:40 pm    Post subject: Waxoyl, waxoil, wax oil 25% DISCOUNT CODE Reply with quote

I'll start by saying I don't work for Roversnorth or have any affiliation with them.
Mods if this post is against forum rules, sorry and please remove.

Most of use by now have heard of waxoyl and its uses for rust prevention.

The problem I had was finding it in the US. I found a Land Rover place that is the dealer in the US. I ordered a kit and spent some time talking 4x4's (Syncros) with him.

http://www.roversnorth.com/Manufacturers/19


I told him the VW crowd would be pretty excited about the products.

So he said he would give us guys a discount, 25%!!!

The code is SAMBA.

*****he said they couldn't get it to work with the already discounted kit so the pieces need to be put in the shopping cart separate*******

So its more like 20% of the kit price.

I am impressed with the quality of the guns and wands. The guns are made in Germany.

I also bought the wand for the hard wax not included in the kit.

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Here is a video


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is another video of the hard wax.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the post that made me start looking for the waxoyl

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=479448&highlight=rust
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure how long h will let us use the code. I don't think it will be forever.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: Waxoyl, waxoil, wax oil 25% DISCOUNT CODE Reply with quote

I told him the VW crowd would be pretty excited about the products.

So he said he would give us guys a discount, 25%!!!

The code is SAMBA.

*****he said they couldn't get it to work with the already discounted kit so the pieces need to be put in the shopping cart separate*******

So its more like 20% of the kit price.

I am impressed with the quality of the guns and wands. The guns are made in Germany.

I also bought the wand for the hard wax not included in the kit.

Here are some pics

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Here is a video


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What is the minimum air pressure needed? to use the air gun, and be able to coat my van?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The PRO gun with wands is $300.
I bought it years ago...very good quality.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Waxoyl, waxoil, wax oil 25% DISCOUNT CODE Reply with quote

jrobewesty wrote:
I'll start by saying I don't work for Roversnorth or have any affiliation with them.
Mods if this post is against forum rules, sorry and please remove.

Most of use by now have heard of waxoyl and its uses for rust prevention.

The problem I had was finding it in the US. I found a Land Rover place that is the dealer in the US. I ordered a kit and spent some time talking 4x4's (Syncros) with him.

http://www.roversnorth.com/Manufacturers/19


I told him the VW crowd would be pretty excited about the products.

So he said he would give us guys a discount, 25%!!!

The code is SAMBA.


Awesome! now, can somebody make a video of them treating a Vanagon? Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Waxoyl, waxoil, wax oil 25% DISCOUNT CODE Reply with quote

adv rider wrote:
What is the minimum I need to have a gun, and be able to coat my van? what it going to cost?


When I look at the videos I see that each gun and wand has its own purpose.

It all would depends on how good of a job you want to do.

I am hoping 1 gallon of the hard wax will be enough to cover the floor, frame rails and suspension pieces but not sure till I do my van. If the interior is out I would think definitely another gallon would be needed.

For the fogging, I would think the gallon is more than enough.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waxing works best as a yearly application, my opinion, so buying more than you initially need is a none issue as it will be used the following year.
The products do not go bad and store well.
Just warm them to apply and watch them wick.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Waxing works best as a yearly application, my opinion, so buying more than you initially need is a none issue as it will be used the following year.
The products do not go bad and store well.
Just warm them to apply and watch them wick.


That's for the underbody, right? I would assume interior and cavity applications would be permanent??
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending upon what else is has been sprayed on interior panels.
I opt for sprayable barriers on the inside now instead of wax...sound, thermal and moisture barriers.

I coat the exterior/under yearly and spray Fluid Film over the entire undercarriage and suspension just before big storms when I will be driving in the worst of it.
The FF will protect the waxes and any dings or abrasions from use.
FF will wash off over time or with Simple Green and hot water.

Just make sure ALL rust has been dealt with first.
Spraying anything over untreated rust will be a HUGE disappointment in very short amounts of time....even with the vehicle stored during the winter months.

I changed the wording thanks to a pmail.
Hope it helps


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The little video says light surface rust is ok, to just brush it all off and then do a thorough clean. InSyncro do you mean that it needs to be truly rust free, i.e. like new, or are you referring more to deeper rust? And how about over old undercoating that has started to flake, take it all down and paint then waxoyl?

Any thoughts on what it is like to work on parts that have been coated before? Is it messy the next year? Do you end up with a bunch of built up wax after a few years of application?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not recommend spraying anything over rust.
It must be dealt with properly and throughly, or it will return, with a vengeance, my opinion, backed up by 20 years of experimenting with most available products and tools to apply them.

Sure, I just spray away on my winter vans, but they are decreasing in value with every mile.

The complete restorations I have done and continue to do have a focus on dealing with any rust.
Waxes work amazingly well to preserve unrusted and properly treated rusted areas.

This is a great thread and a chance for many to save some money.

What I am not saying is just coat every inch of your van and forget about it, the rust is still alive and now driven deeper into the chassis to destroy structural members that you can't see from the outside or underside.

Most waxes can be removed with solvents...I use kerosene after manually scraping the wax with a plastic scraper.

At my shop I submerge suspension parts that have been waxed in a solvent tank and than use a Hotsy power washer with detergent to clean the metal completely.
After that wet sandblasting will prep the metal for powder or coating.
After that I wax the entire part, let it dry and cure, than install.
I use a brush with the hard wax to touch up any spots I rubbed during the install.


Many Left coasters have found out how messy waxes and undercoatings can be.
Long sleeves, nitrile gloves and a respirator should be used when (spray) waxing.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

insyncro wrote: "Depending upon what else is has been sprayed on interior panels. I opt for sprayable barriers on the inside now over wax...sound, thermal and moisture barriers."

I'm going to soundproof/rustproof my syncro this spring. My plan is to use a sprayable sound barrier like Lizard skin for a seamless sound barrier & corrosion protection with closed cell mats over it for the thermal insulation topped by soft Waxol to weep in any cracks.

Are you saying that I should do the Waxoyl soft wax BEFORE the Lizard skin? I was assuming the Lizard skin might not adhere to wax.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not recommend spraying/applying any "wax" product below or over top of barriers as I describe them.
The solvents used to help the waxes flow will hinder adhesion of these barriers.

I do wax inside pillars with barriers in place.

My experience has me and my restorations moving away from waxes inside the vehicle and using much more specific types of sprayable barriers.

Waxing of the undercarriage, all suspension parts and engine compartment parts really helps keep oxidation and rust at bay.

Using more modern materials inside the vehicle makes way more sense for what I am trying to achieve.

Not everyone needs barriers, but they work very well.
If you are planning to use them and underbody products...test to see how the react to eachother first.

AND if ANY bodywork or paint is in your vans future...wait for that work to be completed before applying waxes.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Waxing works best as a yearly application, my opinion, so buying more than you initially need is a none issue as it will be used the following year.
The products do not go bad and store well.
Just warm them to apply and watch them wick.


That's for the underbody, right? I would assume interior and cavity applications would be permanent??



No wax is permanent in my experience.
It is in constant motion, moving further inward into any area it can creep into.
This is why I continuously reapply the same product.

Temperature changes are what have the largest impact upon movement of these products...so heating them and applying them in the summer heat is best.
Or heat the vehicle and work area to around 75 degrees for better results.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I've been meaning to order some more.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok insyncro, that sounds good. Another question. On the underside there are a lot of rubber plugs. Which of these scenarios is the best.

1. Remove plugs, spray soft waxoyl, reinsert plugs.
2. Remove plugs, clean out hollows with a jet of h2o, wax, replug.
3. Remove plugs, clean out hollows, allow to dry and/or speed up drying with hot air, wax, replug.
4. Keep your mitts off the plugs!

All of these would then be followed with a hard wax undercoating on the outside of the suspension parts & floor panels.

And yes, I echo Westylife that it would be cool to see a video of someone undercoating/panel waxing a vanagon.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1,2 or 3.

Any area where I see rust or oxidation gets rust encapsulating paint products.
Inner areas of a van that will see winter use...I than spray a zinc fortified product, than after dried and cured...wax of choice.

No need for the zinc if you store your van and only drive on sunny days.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was asked if the discount code was only good if all items of the kit were purchased.

I put 1 gallon of hard wax in the shopping cart and applied the discount and it worked.

So I will assume it will work on anything purchased.

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