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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:47 pm    Post subject: Fusebox location ? Reply with quote

Hi
This is a early july 1949 Body.
Still the small gas tank.
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It has the pressing and threats for the later style fusebox.
Like on these pics.
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But also two threats as for the earlier style fusebox.
Like on these pics
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They are a bit far rear but look as for a fusebox.
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So now the question. What style was mounted in the car once?
This is not far from the change to the bigger tank.
Can it be that VW already used the sidepanels with the fusebox pressing
but kept the box on the flat beside the small tank?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: fusebox location ? Reply with quote

Ist ein neues Seitenteil, ist ja hartgelötet.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: fusebox location ? Reply with quote

beetlekey wrote:
Ist ein neues Seitenteil, ist ja hartgelötet.


Nein Markus, das ist kein neues Seitenteil.
Das hätte ich schon gemerkt.

He wrote it is a new side panel because it is gas welded.
It is not a new side panel. The whole frontclip was still in first paint and nothing was changed.
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The gas welds where just made to fix some popped up spot welds after the front once got a little punch on its nose.

Thank you Mika for the info. So the new location for the fusebox was stock by then.
Any idea what was screwed onto the flat area?
Or shall I just close them two holes?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carsten, on Fb, Richard Hausmann is wrinting this:
"My car is build July 30th, 1949, It is the same on mine with the number 1-1137xx and original inner fenders and all lids: small gas tank, but all the other things like grooved bumpers, no license plate embossing, card board glove boxes and new front hood locking etc. It seems, that they changed the gas tank the last."

So it is ok with the pressing. You can close the 2 holes next to the fuel tank Wink
I checked picts on early Hebs. Heb 166 that war restored by Pascal, does have the small tank and the same pressing as Carsten's front clip, later style.
Heb 136, heb 100 does have the pressing also, even hebmuller 46 and heb 006 does have the pressings...

So Carsten, it is ok to have the pressing Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not close the holes if they are original.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8287111 wrote:
Do not close the holes if they are original.


They look very old but are most probably now not original.
There is a double sheet metal at that place and the holes have tapped threats.
But there is nothing supposed to be screwed on from the factory when the fusebox sits at the wall.
So if no one has a sense making idea what to place there, I´ll close them.

Disturbingly I just found a pic of an little older car with almost the same holes added. What did the guys fix there?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:24 pm    Post subject: fuse box types for 1950 split Reply with quote

I have a question on fuse boxes. In the pics you show a 6 fuse box with an aluminum knob on top and one with a brown plastic knob on top. Are these both stock and correct for 1950? two different suppliers for fuse boxes? or is one newer than the other? Tim
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would leave the side panel holes as found, just grease and screw in a short pan-head screw into each of the threaded inserts, to keep water out.

I've also wondered about the fuse box knobs. I've always thought that the metal knobs ended sometime in the Zwitter era, but have no consistent proof. On a given car though, I doubt there was mix and match of metal and plastic types.

Also on 6 position fuse boxes: The market is flooded with generic metal-knob fuse boxes that are much later reproductions, with pot metal knobs. These are often advertised as for VW but are clearly generic. There are also other fuse boxes that have the correct early metal knobs, and look correct from the outside, except the brass strip connections are different.......these are for other applications, like Volvo. Correct boxes will of course have a small VW emblem stamped inside, and either an "L" part number, or a later part number.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

usariemen wrote:
8287111 wrote:
Do not close the holes if they are original.


They look very old but are most probably now not original.
There is a double sheet metal at that place and the holes have tapped threats.
But there is nothing supposed to be screwed on from the factory when the fusebox sits at the wall.
So if no one has a sense making idea what to place there, I´ll close them.

Disturbingly I just found a pic of an little older car with almost the same holes added. What did the guys fix there?
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Hi Carsten, the holes should not be there, my june -49 has the fusebox on the sidepanel and no holes beside the tank.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bengt H wrote:

Hi Carsten, the holes should not be there, my june -49 has the fusebox on the sidepanel and no holes beside the tank.


Hello Bengt
We have not heard of each other for a while.
Yes, the holes where not there by factory. That was clear now.
I just wondered why at least at two cars the same ones where added.
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