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bikesndbugs
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wyattsdad
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Brian
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bikesndbugs
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| i would go with the steel ones, bolt it and a couple good tack welds. |
But will i need a rack and pinion and that requires changing steering right? |
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bikesndbugs
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That seems nice if it is cheap ill probobly do that thank you |
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dustymojave
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Considering the constraints listed above, I agree with Brian that would be the best way to go.
Otherwise, I really think that if you NEED the longer travel allowed by the linkpin, you need the front frame tied into the roll cage.
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Brian
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Those adapters are just failure points if you're going to be bashing around off-road.
And yea, if you need travel then you should have a sturdy frame. Then if you have a tube frame, you may as well have it tied to the beam.
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those things move the front forward, add leverage to the frame head junction, relocate the tires forward...
American cars are over engineered. If an American car needs a 9/16" shaft, it gets a 3/4" shaft. American transmissions can typically handle 50% more power. German cars are engineered. If an German car needs a 9/16" shaft, it gets a 9/16" shaft. they don't last long when stressed beyond design limits, you have to compensate for the extra stress
the roll cage is the best way. if you can't do it the best way, use the right part:
http://www.mooreparts.com/3952-701037113G/
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bikesndbugs
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| Brian wrote: |
Those adapters are just failure points if you're going to be bashing around off-road.
And yea, if you need travel then you should have a sturdy frame. Then if you have a tube frame, you may as well have it tied to the beam. |
In the long run it will be caged and probobly have a tubular front end just for now im not ready to do that its a project and im limited on money |
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bikesndbugs
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: ball joint to link pin adapter |
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bringing this back up i think im gonna buy this off a friend what do you guys think of this
its got an adapter and everything works |
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enjoyther1de
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: ball joint to link pin adapter |
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What exactly are you trying to do? Strengthen the front or get more travel?
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bikesndbugs
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: ball joint to link pin adapter |
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| this is a friends i have ball joint curently and would like to go to linkpin its stronger and more travel than stock balljoint and then i dont have to lift it as its already lifted. I plan on buying it from him i just wanna know if this seems good or not because the steerering extensions are kinda funky |
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dustymojave
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The beam looks to be fine. The ball joint to link pin adapters I don't approve of. Apparently it's been used on the street for some time OK. For offroad...Nahh The only adaptation from ball joint to link pin I approve of is Bugzila's conversion beams or using roll cage to support the beam instead of the frame head. If you run cage out to the beam, then the adapters would be OK. I would not trust them on their own. The steering shaft adapter is kinda hokey too. There are better ways to extend the shaft.
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bikesndbugs
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: ball joint to link pin adapter |
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| Ya that's what I was thinking this is gonna be temporary and it will be braced to the cage someday and ill prob change the steering extension |
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enjoyther1de
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:20 am Post subject: Re: ball joint to link pin adapter |
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You'll be surprised what a ball joint beam will handle. I'd run the bj till the time comes to cage the car.
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bikesndbugs
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:32 am Post subject: Re: ball joint to link pin adapter |
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| You'll be surprised what a ball joint beam will handle. I'd run the bj till the time comes to cage the car. |
i need to replace ball joints on my beam because they are all going out already so i figured it would be easier to just put the linkpin on and its not gonna be doing anything hard on it or any offroad at all till it has a cage |
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