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Hokie87 Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2010 Posts: 280 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:14 pm Post subject: Engine compartment light |
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I know others have installed dome lights in the engine compartment and I'm looking for mounting location ideas. Anyone have a picture of where they installed a dome light in the engine compartment?
I'm also looking for wiring ideas. I was thinking of getting power from the regulator B+ terminal with an in-line fuse. |
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3931 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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Z Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2003 Posts: 2517 Location: galveston, tx
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="easy e"]From Clara's Gallery pics
It runs from the + on the VR through an inline fuse to the light, which is a splitty interior dome light.
OK, dumb question from electrical dunce, but the D+ or the B+ on the VR? |
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Hokie87 Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2010 Posts: 280 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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easy e wrote: |
From Clara's Gallery pics
It runs from the + on the VR through an inline fuse to the light, which is a splitty interior dome light.
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Thanks, easy e. I searched the Gallery but missed Clara's picture somehow. I wanted to put it more midline for better illumination, but there isn't a good mounting location that I could find. It looks like the side location provides plenty of light though.
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It runs from the + on the VR through an inline fuse to the light, which is a splitty interior dome light.
OK, dumb question from electrical dunce, but the D+ or the B+ on the VR? |
B+ is a direct connection to the battery + terminal, so that one. D+ is the input to the VR from the generator, not that one. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24732 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Z wrote: |
From Clara's Gallery pics
It runs from the + on the VR through an inline fuse to the light, which is a splitty interior dome light.
OK, dumb question from electrical dunce, but the D+ or the B+ on the VR? |
Regulator regulates voltage coming out of the gen and isolates the battery from the gen when engine is shut off.
D+ would connect the light to the gen which can put out about 30+ volts, and with engine off no voltage to the light. Light and generator can burn out all too soon. So not of much use....
B+ if you look at the wiring diagram is connected directly to the battery at all times. So if you have an engine failure to proceed forward, you have the battery power to light up your life at night. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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velvetgreen Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 2745 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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I am no electrical genius but I bought a generic interior light from Canadian Tire (auto store) and then krazy glue'ed a couple of rare earth magnets to the back of the light. I can install the light anywhere there is metal and no drilling required
What are rare earth magnets you say? Basically magnets or steroids in terms of how well can stick to steel
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=59362&cat=1,42363,42348,59362 |
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3931 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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A couple compartment lights would be handy + one under the dash.
One of my favorite lights is a camping headlamp (wear on your head)... good light right where your looking & great for work under vehicle / other tight spots... and it frees up both your hands. _________________ aka: Evan
Spreadsheet for Bus RPM, based on gearing & tire size (Excel format)
Searchable, click-navigable 1958 Bus Parts List |
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Daddybus Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2000 Posts: 1653
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Magnetic LED 12v work light with an internally stored winded up cord that plugs into 12v power outlet wired to the battery (fused). I use an LED headlamp most of the time. |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: February 03, 2003 Posts: 127 Location: NOR-CAL
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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I have been using my cell phone flashlight instead. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24732 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed, having a LED head lamp is very helpful!
Got one from a manufacture by the name of Coast out of Portland OR. Really super bright and without the totally blue toned of light cheaper LED lamps have.
Only complaints we have is the ones we have is they use 3 AAA batteries. Wish they would use AA ones or double the AAAs. Due to this the light dims down after 15 to 20 minutes, but does go on bright enough for close up work for at least an hour afterward. We are using rechargable batteries, so after these get dim we charge them back up and have not waited to see how long till they go out completely.
Think the ones we have are 175 lumens, model HL5.
If one does not like a headlamp, the old crook neck military style of flashlight works well. Unlike the normal flashlight you can lay the crook neck flash light on its side and aimed up underneath the VW while you work. Plus can be retrofitted with LED bulb. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Clara Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:47 am Post subject: |
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I jumped the wire off the big fat push on at the VR, like the westy dome light does, where the big fat red wire goes.
I also used 12V 10W bulbs, the ones that melt the dome light cover, and did not use a dome light cover.
One problem is on occasion I forgot to turn the light off, which can drain the battery.
Another option is jumping off the running light wire from the taillight, which is already fused.
Then you have to have the headlights switch out to the first click for the engine compartment light to work.
Don't have a pic handy, but some people have used door light switches from later VWs, which would not have worked here:
This location is perfect for checking the oil.
Think I went through inline fuse to battery on the baja truck. |
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4572 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Every one of my Split Buses gets this update using original Bus dome lights in the engine compartment...
...and under the dash radio to illuminate the dash tray...
Bill Bowman _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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EDragnDean Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2005 Posts: 1148 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Hokie87 Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2010 Posts: 280 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, everyone for the pictures and ideas.
Bill, where is this picture? Is this the engine compartment or the treasure chest? I don't have those cross beams to mount to in my engine compartment.
BulliBill wrote: |
Every one of my Split Buses gets this update using original Bus dome lights in the engine compartment...
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I think I'm going to go with two lights, one on each side like the first picture above from Clara's gallery. I'll post a picture after this weekends work. |
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4572 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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That is the engine compartment ceiling on my '59 DC, engine is not installed. That placement keeps the light just aft of the carburetor for nice even illumination of the engine with one light fixture. The power wire heads off to the right side where the battery is...
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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tisius Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2011 Posts: 1570 Location: Rotterdam,NL (+Chicago,IL)
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:38 am Post subject: |
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EDragnDean wrote: |
PO tied mine into the headlights. Dome light, right above the deck lid, uses the existing wiring, need to have the headlights on for the light to work. |
Why not reconnect the engine compartment light straight to the battery? That way the head- and tail-lights would not get a chance to drain your battery when you need your engine compartment light on. It's only a simple fix. _________________ drive it like you just robbed the bank
you don't have to be crazy to be into VW's, but it sure helps!!
.... if it ain't dutch, it ain't much! |
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Fredrok Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2014 Posts: 227 Location: Under the evergreens. CO
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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This has been on my list, but far down in light of more pressing junk. My plan is to hide a 3ft-ish strip of the small led module lights on the inside lip opposite the hinges. A ton of light, very low amperage, Out of sight, long lifespan, facing the engine. I plan to run directly from the battery, fused, and use a mercury switch to ground so it illuminates with the decklid. At about a half an amp, you could work on the side of the road for a long damn time without worrying about the batt draining.
I really like Bill's addition above the parcel tray, I had not thought of that.
http://www.amazon.com/Triangle-Bulbs-Waterproof-Strip-3528-IP65-White-60L/dp/B005EHHLD8 |
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Hokie87 Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2010 Posts: 280 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:59 am Post subject: |
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I liked the idea of using original parts in unoriginal ways, but those LED strip lights are really nice and the sticky-back adhesive installation couldn't be easier. I may change my mind. Thanks. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24732 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:40 am Post subject: |
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You can get LED bulbs that fit in the OG interior light also. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Hokie87 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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I went with the mounting location from Clara's gallery. I put one on each side and got power prom the regulator through an in-line fuse.
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