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The Vdub Hub Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:50 am Post subject: Exterior paint colors for 1948 & 1949 STANDARD models |
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For 1948, 1949 and even up to 1950, STANDARD Beetles only, what colors were offered other than L41 Black/Schwarz? It seems that someone would have already started this specific topic in the forums but I can't seem to find it.
L11 Pastel Green/Pastellgrün
L13 Medium Green/Mittelgrün
L14 Mignonette/Resedagrün
L 21 Pearl Grey/Perlgrau
L23 Silver Grey/Silbergrau
L32 Dark Blue/Dunkelblau
L50 Early Coral Red???
L51 Bordeaux Red/Bordeauxrot
L70 Medium Brown/Mittelbraun
L 71 Beige/Beige
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usariemen Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:45 am Post subject: |
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In 1948 and early 1949 the beetles came in pearlgrey L21 , black L41 , darkblue L32 and in the military colors of the allied occupation forces.
I think they dropped the darkblue on standards at 7/1949 and they where just either black or pearlgrey till mid of 1950.
From 7/1950 on the black was dropped and the darkblue came back along with the pearlgrey till 7/1951.
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vwclap Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Any idea on the color of the rims and the paint code of hubcaps on the Pearl grey standard in 49.
Claude _________________ Claude
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sunroof Samba Member
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1949 Belgian standard in first paint.
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vwclap Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hubcap and bumper chromed? _________________ Claude
cox 1956, 1962 et 1975
Split panel 1963
Samba 21 fenetres 1966
Ghia 1968
Sport Ghia 73
West 1970
Jetta 1992
Jetta TDI 2015
West Multivan 2002 |
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Grant Reiling Samba Slow-Change Artist
Joined: November 28, 2003 Posts: 491 Location: behind the wheel
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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vwclap wrote: |
Hubcap and bumper chromed? |
= Export Standard. |
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vwclap Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 519 Location: Qc, Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks,
Does a standard standard have grey rim, grey hubcaps and grey bumpers?...Any color pictures of a 49 standard with painted hubcap and bumper? _________________ Claude
cox 1956, 1962 et 1975
Split panel 1963
Samba 21 fenetres 1966
Ghia 1968
Sport Ghia 73
West 1970
Jetta 1992
Jetta TDI 2015
West Multivan 2002 |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 24119 Location: Southeast USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Grant Reiling wrote: |
vwclap wrote: |
Hubcap and bumper chromed? |
= Export Standard. |
As Grant stated, Standards that were exported had chrome bumpers and handles. Home market cars had them painted.
Other than factory literature, color photos from that era are very rare. If you spend some time looking through this thread you will find some.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=262268
Here's one example.
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pastellgreen Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2012 Posts: 1049 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I have seen pictures and cars from 1948/49 (standards) with two tone colour rims...
for black and pearlgrey cars outer rim in body colour, inner part with red...
...any facts about that? |
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Hebster52 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2003 Posts: 1773 Location: Finland, Jakobstad
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Hebster52 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:37 am Post subject: Re: Exterior paint colors for 1948 & 1949 STANDARD model |
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1938-1939
schwarz RAL 9005, blaugrau RAL 7011.
1939-1942
schwarz RAL 9005, grau RAL 6006 oder 7021, militärfarben, blaugrau RAL 7011, beige RAL 1002.
1932-1944
grau RAL 6006 oder 7021, militärfarben; 82e/92 grau RAL 6006 oder 7021, sandfarben RAL 8002 oder 1002, militärfarben.
1945
khakigrün (Militär), rot RAL 3000 (Reichspost) und andere.
1946-1947
servicegrün (GB), braun (UdSSR), fliegerblau (RAF), hellgrau (F), dunkelgrau (USA), tiefschwarz L41, grau L28 und andere.
1948-1949
perlgrau L21, schwarz L41, dunkelblau L32, militärfarben.
7/1949-5/1950
pastellgrün L11, mittelbraun L78, bordeauxrot L51; Standard: perlgrau L21, schwarz L41.
5/1950-4/1951
pastellgrün L11, mittelbraun L78, bordeauxrot L51, schwarz L41; Standard: perlgrau L21, dunkelblau L32.
4/1951-7/1951
pastellgrün L11, kastanienbraun L73, sandfarbe L90, azurblau L36, schwarz L41; Standard: perlgrau L21, dunkelblau L32.
7/1951-9/1952
pastellgrün L11, kastanienbraun L73, sandfarbe L90, azurblau L36, schwarz L41; Standard: perlgrau L21, mittelblau L37, sandfarbe L90.
10/1952-3/1953
pastellgrün L11, kastanienbraun L73, sandfarbe L90, azurblau L36, schwarz L41; Standard: perlgrau L21, mittelblau L37, mittelgrün L13. _________________ ~Kris~
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Terra45 Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2011 Posts: 10 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Exterior paint colors for 1948 & 1949 STANDARD model |
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My Late 1949 Standard states that the car was originally Bordeauxrot (L 51 red)- a pretty rare colour for Standards I expect..
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pastellgreen Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2012 Posts: 1049 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Exterior paint colors for 1948 & 1949 STANDARD model |
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Surely there were exports before 1949, but they were upgraded "standards". The expressions standard and export were not common, but I hope you know what I mean,...
... I have visited the Grundmann collection this weekend and have also seen a grey beetle before 1949, not supposed to be built for export, having a two-tone colour wheel, outer hump in grey, center wheel in red. Please aslo look at the black beetle from 1948 here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1853689
I have also a film from factory of 1949, where real standard models have two tone colour rims and the new export models have semi tone colour rims. |
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vwclap Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 519 Location: Qc, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Exterior paint colors for 1948 & 1949 STANDARD model |
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On the car hauler the standards have 2 tones rims
_________________ Claude
cox 1956, 1962 et 1975
Split panel 1963
Samba 21 fenetres 1966
Ghia 1968
Sport Ghia 73
West 1970
Jetta 1992
Jetta TDI 2015
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pastellgreen Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2012 Posts: 1049 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:20 am Post subject: Re: Exterior paint colors for 1948 & 1949 STANDARD model |
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Could we perhaps say following:
cars from 1948 and 1949 have two tone wheels:
black body: hump in bodycolour, center wheel in red (which red? L50 korallenrot?)
grey body: hump in bodycolour, center wheel in red
medium blue: hump in bodycolour, center wheel light beige (L75 ?)
???
If somebody could assist with facts, I could insert these in the rim-colour-thread from the split-window beetle FAQ... |
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beetlekey Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2004 Posts: 633 Location: MINDEN
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Grant Reiling wrote: |
vwclap wrote: |
Hubcap and bumper chromed? |
= Export Standard. |
By the way, there were always an ubgrade option for a standard.
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Martin Southwell Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2010 Posts: 986 Location: Bath, England
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:23 pm Post subject: Exterior paint colors for 1948 & 1949 STANDARD models |
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Just to confuse matters, here is a picture of my May 1947 Beetle, in Bristol UK, in 1956, with its 2nd owner and brother. The wheels seem to be two tone, but whether this was from new who knows? The owner at that time worked in a garage specialising in car bodywork repairs, and if you look at the shape of the front wing, it looks as though it had had a few scrapes, but the paintwork looks good.
You can see a long dent, starting at the bottom of the door, running along the rear 1/4 panel. I recall the owner telling me that this was caused by a milk float running into it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_float Again the paintwork looks OK despite the dent. |
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Martin Southwell Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2010 Posts: 986 Location: Bath, England
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Exterior paint colors for 1948 & 1949 STANDARD model |
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Kristian provides some interesting paint information above. Where does he get that information from?
For 1946/7 his list says 'Service Green' from British Army cars, but not given as a colour beyond those years. In reality, British Army Standard Splits went up to at least 1952, and maybe longer in Service Green. I have a 1951, ex UK Army, Standard Beetle, ex BOAR (British Army Of The Rhine) which is in Service Green underneath other colours. |
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ovals4ever Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Exterior paint colors for 1948 & 1949 STANDARD models |
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Early style L21 Pearl Grey.
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