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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:01 am    Post subject: Interior ("dome") light, 1964 Ghia coupe Reply with quote

What can I do to obtain an interior light holder? Evidently it attaches to the bracket shown below, contains a switch, and holds the bulb. The plastic lens then snaps on. Even the very thorough HOG catalog apparently doesn't list this part, although it does show a crude sketch (and HOG isn't taking parts orders now anyway).

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The Samba classifieds don't seem to list anything like this. A search on Ebay brings up a lot of "Euromax", "Porsche, fits Ghia", "Type 34, pay $40", etc., and I don't have a great deal of confidence in Ebay's WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) factor.

I'm clever enough that I could obtain the stock lens and bulb and a close-to-stock switch and fabricate the needed light holder, to be hidden behind the headliner.

Do y'all have any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that photo of your Ghia? If so, then you really only need the entire light assembly... the plastic lens is part of the unit, since the light has two legs that supports the bulb and switch, and are spaced apart so that they fit into the width of that bracket on the ceiling.

Here's a shot of a Beetle light, but the one for a Ghia is very similar in shape, size and function.
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My '64 Coupe is over an hour away in storage otherwise I'd take a photo for you. I did have the light out about 20 years ago when I converted the car to 12V. I carefully pried the light out by pressing a think blade against one of the legs from the side, to dislodge the retaining clip. Then pulled the edge out so that both legs cleared the retaining bracket. My car has the headliner in place so I never actually saw the bare bracket like in the photo.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm told the 356 Interior light is identical...it certainly looks like the early KG one: http://www.autoatlanta.com/Porsche-356a-b-Interior-Light-Lens-80mm-Hole-Parts-PN-RNLA63210103.html

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...here's a (partial) picture of the interior light in my '64. I would try Bughaus.com to see if they have that....disregard my (very functional) custom mirror Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry our site wasn't linking right on that Shocked - we're fixing it now and thanks to ZENVWDRIVER for the heads up! Here's the link to that light.
http://bughaus.com/dome_light_-_343947111.htm

And John is correct - it is the same as the 356.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv been told it's the same as a early beetle.
good job then I didnt order it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea - early Beetle is different:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bughaus wrote:
yea - early Beetle is different:

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Bughaus, does your dome light come with a 6v or 12v bulb and does it have screw connectors or push on?

Does anybody have he body roof bracket from a parted out car? Mine is missing!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CerveloMikey wrote:
Bughaus wrote:
yea - early Beetle is different:

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Bughaus, does your dome light come with a 6v or 12v bulb and does it have screw connectors or push on?

Does anybody have he body roof bracket from a parted out car? Mine is missing!


I might have one from a 58 parted out many years ago. I will check for you on Monday.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CerveloMikey wrote:


Bughaus, does your dome light come with a 6v or 12v bulb and does it have screw connectors or push on?

Does anybody have he body roof bracket from a parted out car? Mine is missing!


It has screw connectors. It doesn't come with a bulb but we offer them in both 6v and 12v.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Moxon wrote:
I'm told the 356 Interior light is identical...it certainly looks like the early KG one: http://www.autoatlanta.com/Porsche-356a-b-Interior-Light-Lens-80mm-Hole-Parts-PN-RNLA63210103.html

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Do we know for sure that this light is identical? I'd rather pay $42 than $59.99 (no offense Eric)...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the one. it's a nice reproduction part.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woreign wrote:


Do we know for sure that this light is identical? I'd rather pay $42 than $59.99 (no offense Eric)...


Ha! No worries! They're prob the manufacturer of it or closer to them than we are so they're def buying them for a lot less than we can. Like gregson1 said, it's the same assembly.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received my Porsche light this weekend. So I made a cut in the headliner and pulled out two wires. Unfortunately, the brown wire had been cut and only the red one appears to be connected (I need to test it). So, am I S-O-L as far as the brown wire goes? I don't think new wires would pull very easily through the 'A' pillar. I know I could make it work without, but then the light won't illuminate when the doors are opened.

Also, what is supposed the hold the light in place? I see two metal nipples on each end on the back side of the light, and one with spring loaded. Is that what holds it? I might have to glue the headliner in around the opening first.

But, with a Porsche light, I'm sure my Ghia gained 1 or 2 extra horsepower!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post a picture of the backside of the light. Yes, the two nipples hold it in. It is a friction fit. What kind of bulb does it take, festoon type? I just got my bracket in and I am going to order a dome light. See if you can pull some slack on the red wire. If it pulls freely, attach a new brown and red wire with a butt connecter at the dome light hole and pull it from under the hood.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is probably about 3/16" of play side to side on the light. The spring loaded nipples do not engage the sides of the opening. I wrapped a rubber band around the the backside to help hold it in place until I come up with a better method. So, the Porsche light might look identical from the front, but the back is different and does NOT fit the Ghia properly.

I'll try pulling on the wire, but the single red wire is so small, I think it might break if I pulled too much. I'll pull from inside the trunk where I can tug on the wire sheath. If it gives, then maybe attach some nylon string to the red wire and then pull new wire with the string...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On VW's the brown is just a ground/earth. Ground it right up by the light. Is there a reason to run ground all the way back?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
On VW's the brown is just a ground/earth. Ground it right up by the light. Is there a reason to run ground all the way back?


The brown wire is going down the left side to the drivers door ground switch and another wire runs across the back side of the dash to the passenger side ground switch. The light is always hot and activated by the switches grounding it. The nipples ground the light itself so you can turn it on with the doors closed. Measure your hole and make sure it is 80mm. Maybe somebody took a can opener to it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, so light goes on when door opens, just like a modern car Shocked
Sorry, Now i remember running wire down the window post to those. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opening is appox. 90mm wide. I guess someone modified it to fit a larger light?
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