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SchnuppiePup Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2014 Posts: 67 Location: San Jose, California
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:01 am Post subject: Interior ("dome") light, 1964 Ghia coupe |
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What can I do to obtain an interior light holder? Evidently it attaches to the bracket shown below, contains a switch, and holds the bulb. The plastic lens then snaps on. Even the very thorough HOG catalog apparently doesn't list this part, although it does show a crude sketch (and HOG isn't taking parts orders now anyway).
The Samba classifieds don't seem to list anything like this. A search on Ebay brings up a lot of "Euromax", "Porsche, fits Ghia", "Type 34, pay $40", etc., and I don't have a great deal of confidence in Ebay's WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) factor.
I'm clever enough that I could obtain the stock lens and bulb and a close-to-stock switch and fabricate the needed light holder, to be hidden behind the headliner.
Do y'all have any suggestions? _________________ Better a life-long learner than a life-long know-it-all.
1964 Ghia coupe
1968 Honda CT 90
1980 Honda CT 110 |
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9602 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Is that photo of your Ghia? If so, then you really only need the entire light assembly... the plastic lens is part of the unit, since the light has two legs that supports the bulb and switch, and are spaced apart so that they fit into the width of that bracket on the ceiling.
Here's a shot of a Beetle light, but the one for a Ghia is very similar in shape, size and function.
My '64 Coupe is over an hour away in storage otherwise I'd take a photo for you. I did have the light out about 20 years ago when I converted the car to 12V. I carefully pried the light out by pressing a think blade against one of the legs from the side, to dislodge the retaining clip. Then pulled the edge out so that both legs cleared the retaining bracket. My car has the headliner in place so I never actually saw the bare bracket like in the photo. |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13943 Location: Southampton U.K.
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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...here's a (partial) picture of the interior light in my '64. I would try Bughaus.com to see if they have that....disregard my (very functional) custom mirror
_________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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Bughaus Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 50 Location: Tulsa
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cracker666 Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2012 Posts: 156 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Iv been told it's the same as a early beetle.
good job then I didnt order it. |
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Bughaus Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 50 Location: Tulsa
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:23 am Post subject: |
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yea - early Beetle is different:
_________________ Eric
http://www.Bughaus.com |
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VeloMikey Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2012 Posts: 646 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Bughaus wrote: |
yea - early Beetle is different:
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Bughaus, does your dome light come with a 6v or 12v bulb and does it have screw connectors or push on?
Does anybody have he body roof bracket from a parted out car? Mine is missing! _________________ '58 Ghia 2387cc with a Berg / Folts 5 Speed
Ghia Build Thread https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768748 |
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belairman Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2010 Posts: 399
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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CerveloMikey wrote: |
Bughaus wrote: |
yea - early Beetle is different:
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Bughaus, does your dome light come with a 6v or 12v bulb and does it have screw connectors or push on?
Does anybody have he body roof bracket from a parted out car? Mine is missing! |
I might have one from a 58 parted out many years ago. I will check for you on Monday. |
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Bughaus Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 50 Location: Tulsa
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:15 am Post subject: |
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CerveloMikey wrote: |
Bughaus, does your dome light come with a 6v or 12v bulb and does it have screw connectors or push on?
Does anybody have he body roof bracket from a parted out car? Mine is missing! |
It has screw connectors. It doesn't come with a bulb but we offer them in both 6v and 12v.
Thanks! _________________ Eric
http://www.Bughaus.com |
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Woreign Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: Crestview FL
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Do we know for sure that this light is identical? I'd rather pay $42 than $59.99 (no offense Eric)... |
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gregson1 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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That's the one. it's a nice reproduction part. |
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Bughaus Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 50 Location: Tulsa
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Woreign wrote: |
Do we know for sure that this light is identical? I'd rather pay $42 than $59.99 (no offense Eric)... |
Ha! No worries! They're prob the manufacturer of it or closer to them than we are so they're def buying them for a lot less than we can. Like gregson1 said, it's the same assembly. _________________ Eric
http://www.Bughaus.com |
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Woreign Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: Crestview FL
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:14 am Post subject: |
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I received my Porsche light this weekend. So I made a cut in the headliner and pulled out two wires. Unfortunately, the brown wire had been cut and only the red one appears to be connected (I need to test it). So, am I S-O-L as far as the brown wire goes? I don't think new wires would pull very easily through the 'A' pillar. I know I could make it work without, but then the light won't illuminate when the doors are opened.
Also, what is supposed the hold the light in place? I see two metal nipples on each end on the back side of the light, and one with spring loaded. Is that what holds it? I might have to glue the headliner in around the opening first.
But, with a Porsche light, I'm sure my Ghia gained 1 or 2 extra horsepower! |
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VeloMikey Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2012 Posts: 646 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Post a picture of the backside of the light. Yes, the two nipples hold it in. It is a friction fit. What kind of bulb does it take, festoon type? I just got my bracket in and I am going to order a dome light. See if you can pull some slack on the red wire. If it pulls freely, attach a new brown and red wire with a butt connecter at the dome light hole and pull it from under the hood. _________________ '58 Ghia 2387cc with a Berg / Folts 5 Speed
Ghia Build Thread https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768748 |
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Woreign Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: Crestview FL
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:11 am Post subject: |
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There is probably about 3/16" of play side to side on the light. The spring loaded nipples do not engage the sides of the opening. I wrapped a rubber band around the the backside to help hold it in place until I come up with a better method. So, the Porsche light might look identical from the front, but the back is different and does NOT fit the Ghia properly.
I'll try pulling on the wire, but the single red wire is so small, I think it might break if I pulled too much. I'll pull from inside the trunk where I can tug on the wire sheath. If it gives, then maybe attach some nylon string to the red wire and then pull new wire with the string... |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8206 Location: San Dimas
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VeloMikey Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2012 Posts: 646 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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c21darrel wrote: |
On VW's the brown is just a ground/earth. Ground it right up by the light. Is there a reason to run ground all the way back? |
The brown wire is going down the left side to the drivers door ground switch and another wire runs across the back side of the dash to the passenger side ground switch. The light is always hot and activated by the switches grounding it. The nipples ground the light itself so you can turn it on with the doors closed. Measure your hole and make sure it is 80mm. Maybe somebody took a can opener to it. _________________ '58 Ghia 2387cc with a Berg / Folts 5 Speed
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c21darrel Samba Member
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Woreign Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: Crestview FL
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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My opening is appox. 90mm wide. I guess someone modified it to fit a larger light? |
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