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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:34 pm    Post subject: Difficulty in Rolling Window Up Reply with quote

...so, on my passenger door ('73 Super), whenever the window is about an inch from being completely rolled up, it gets extremely difficult to roll (almost feels like I am going to break the handle). Any ideas??
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best thing to do is to remove the door panel and plastic vapor barrior and lubricate the mechanism in the door. It is called the window regulator. Anything you find associated with the window up and down. It will be smooth as silk when completed. Take an afternoon and do it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What should I lubricate it with?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread has some nice info about disassembling the door and lubricating the regulator:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=335018
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for that....very good write-up!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done the clean/lube thing on my 1971 VW Convertible every few years (four roll-up windows). Especially because Convertible window regulators are EXPENSIVE, and one of the ones for the rear is no longer available new.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll be surprised how much difference clean and lube can make. I couldn't raise my window at all without grabbing the glass and helping it as I cranked. No new parts, just wiped the gunk off all the moving parts and applied some fresh grease, smooth as can be now.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. If you force it, you'll break the mechanism then you're into a whole new can of worms. I used WD40 initially to break down the old grease and crud. After it was cleared, I used a heavier, but not too heavy white lithium grease (like assembly lube) on the mechanism.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best to take it out ,remove all that old grease that sometimes hardens up ,then regrease it ,it will work just like new...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a project.....but it needs done....
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, double check the felt, to insure that hasn't gotten pinched in that area.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Molly1973 wrote:
Looks like a project.....but it needs done....


It's not that bad Molly. Buy a door panel clip removal tool, under $10, worth it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While you're at it, you may want to vacuum out the bottom of the door, clean up as much surface rust as you can and apply some POR-15 at the bottom and new sound deadener material (I used Quick Roof from Home Depot).

Don't forget to replace the vapour barrier. You can cut out new ones from any thicker plastic material you can get at Home Depot or Lowes.

When I did my scrapers I also ordered a bunch of these (see links below from Wolfsburg West) as a few always break when you remove the door card:

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113881000
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=N143893
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take off the two Phillips screws; one is hidden under plastic and holds the window crank on, the other is under the plastic for the inner door release pull. Put like two layers of masking tape over the paint just above the panel to avoid scratching (like stacked to make wider swatch).

I start at the bottom, use the panel tool too release the clips, and work your way around the door. Once all are released, grab the door-close handle and pull slightly towards you as you lift the panel up and out (the pulling towards you is so the top row of clips doesn't scratch the paint/masking tape).

Then gently peel back plastic moisture barrier and get cleanin' and lubin' !!!
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