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John Moxon 
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remerus
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| Ha ha sorry mate my mistake. Cheers |
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bugmandave
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they used the stock snorkel cut off the original oil bath air cleaner, if you use it then you should put a filter screen in the snorkel intake so your not sucking in unfiltered air, which at running speed would be all the time rather than through the Judson filter screen. poor design
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remerus
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| bugmandave wrote: |
| they used the stock snorkel cut off the original oil bath air cleaner, if you use it then you should put a filter screen in the snorkel intake so your not sucking in unfiltered air, which at running speed would be all the time rather than through the Judson filter screen. poor design |
Thanks BugmanDave,
I have an aversion to hacking up OG VW accessories as they are not making these things any more unfortunately. I think it might be a better Idea to block it off somehow and let the Judson intake do its job via it's own filter.
On the other side of the coin it might be seen as wise to allow the preheat pipe to be doing it's job to bring warm air to the manifold... I'm sure both avenues have a valid argument as to which course to take.... |
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bugmandave
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There are probably more 40 hp air cleaners out there than actual 40 hp cars. if you use a smashed up one that has a good inlet it would be fine in my opinion .you might want the preheat option to prevent carb icing anyway
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henry roberts
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i had considered putting a piece of mesh inside the snout with some unifilter type foam in front to filter the preheat air.
I'll have a dig for a beat up aircleaner. |
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remerus
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| henry roberts wrote: |
i had considered putting a piece of mesh inside the snout with some unifilter type foam in front to filter the preheat air.
I'll have a dig for a beat up aircleaner. |
Not a bad idea mate and thank you that would be appreciated.
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thomas.
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I put a piece of aluminum tape over mine when I was running it. I purchased an oil bath filter to cut up but it turned out to be such a nice one I didn't want to cut it. That s.charger gets pretty warm under the carb.You might not need the pre-heat. Mine ran good without. Also wanted to repeat what I said earlier if you missed it. The throttle linkage G.Folchi sells are made to function with the 28 carb like the original and won't work with that 30 carb on your engine. I'd bet that's why your throttle linkage was changed. It looks like it might work pretty good though.
Edit... One more thing I wanted to add. In your video it looks like the MM oil is running a little fast.I think it's suppose to be one drop every 6 sec.(best to check though) Too much oil can contribute to excessive smoke. |
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John Moxon
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remerus
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| thomas. wrote: |
I put a piece of aluminum tape over mine when I was running it. I purchased an oil bath filter to cut up but it turned out to be such a nice one I didn't want to cut it. That s.charger gets pretty warm under the carb.You might not need the pre-heat. Mine ran good without. Also wanted to repeat what I said earlier if you missed it. The throttle linkage G.Folchi sells are made to function with the 28 carb like the original and won't work with that 30 carb on your engine. I'd bet that's why your throttle linkage was changed. It looks like it might work pretty good though.
Edit... One more thing I wanted to add. In your video it looks like the MM oil is running a little fast.I think it's suppose to be one drop every 6 sec.(best to check though) Too much oil can contribute to excessive smoke. |
Thanks Thomas, sorry I had missed what you mentioned about my throttle linkage for some reason, thanks for bringing it up again. I have actually been chatting with George Folchi via email about getting myself a new throttle linkage and a tensioner pulley. I had attached a picture of this settup to the original email to which he had replied that it looked original but had been "horsed with" he had however not picked up that my system was running the 30 pict 1.
The 30pict 1 and the monkeyed throttle linkage seems to function well enough as you can see in the video.
I suppose a good question would be if I were to change it back to a 28pict would there be any major chance that I would have to make besides changing over the main jet? And is there any benefit in have the 30 pict 1 on this system to begin with?
p.s I had the oiler running at about 8 drops per minute in the above video 1 every 6 seconds would be 10 a minute... Of course I am getting my head around this new to me settup so my initial count could be off, but how much should these be smoking under load say driving up a decent hill? |
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thomas.
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| Any updates on this? I was just browsing and noticed I missed this. If you decide to go with the 28 carb you would need the new throttle linkage obviously. Plus like John said the return spring set-up if you don't have.The reason I changed mine to the 30 pict was I wanted to have the 30's throttle return spring set-up. The one with the spring on the carb. It seems better suited to return the idle after letting up on the gas peddle.Especially with the Judson. Your carb is the older model without the vertical spring. Probably from a '66 1300 is my guess. If you change to a 28 you should check what size main jet is in your current carb. On the oiler count I counted more like a drop every 4 sec. which would be 15 a min. That might be contributing to your excessive smoke. |
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