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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re-tapping Anti roll/sway bars?? Reply with quote

I've discovered that the idiot that previously owned my heavy duty roll bar, has mangled the threads up to the split pin hole.
Now I need to machine the shoulders back approx 10mm and re-tap the threads!!
Can anyone enlighten me, knowing these are hardened/sprung steel, if this is even possible????
Cheers Kez
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My stock front roll bar clamps on with large rubber blocks and clamps, there is no threads.

I had to unheat treat, machine, and reheat treat a bicycle bearing race. Heat it up white hot, put the end large can of wood ash. The ash will act as insulation and allow it to cool very slowly completely destroying the heat treating. Machine the part. As I am typing this I realize I was heat treating a bicycle race which is done by heating to white hot, cleaning an area, just touching one bit to the water, watch for the heat discoloration to show on the place you filed and then dunk the whole thing. I have know idea how to heat treat a 4 foot long bar.

Well I got you started with how to unheat treat. The wood ash is really good insulation. I heated the part up and put it in the coffee can full of ash before supper. I confidently reached into the coffee can to retrieve the part the next morning and got 3rd degree burns, whoda thunk the heat would be retained that long.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: Re-tapping Anti roll/sway bars?? Reply with quote

Dubbalicious wrote:
I've discovered that the idiot that previously owned my heavy duty roll bar, has mangled the threads up to the split pin hole.
Now I need to machine the shoulders back approx 10mm and re-tap the threads!!
Can anyone enlighten me, knowing these are hardened/sprung steel, if this is even possible????
Cheers Kez


I'm not sure you want to do that. The superbeetle anti-roll bar also serves to locate the lower control arms front to back. You'll be changing the steering and suspension geometry if you alter the threaded areas on the anti-roll bar. You certainly couldn't rethread to a smaller diameter as that would make the bar weaker, and being it helps hold the wheel on, you don't want to risk it breaking. Take it to a pro if you want to mess with the heat treatment. Doing it yourself it's likely to be either too soft and bend in use or too brittle and break in use. I'd probably just replace the bar.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't heat treating make steel stronger but more brittle/stiff? Sway bars are spring steel and I'd think any hardening process would remove the spring.
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