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MississaugaManx Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2015 Posts: 4 Location: Mississauga, Ontario.
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Latest reply from Haggerty....I really wish they would stop calling it a dune buggy.
Thank you for contacting Hagerty! We understand your concern and appreciate you bringing this to our attention.
In the U.S., our underwriting company there now allows us to consider original Meyers Manx dune buggies built between 1964 and 1971, as long as they are not used for off-roading and the insured has provided proof such as the owners card and/or picture of the emblem and serial number plate. Unfortunately, we do not have these same guidelines available in Canada.
Additionally, while there is no specific decline rule applicable for dune buggies in Alberta, unfortunately we are unable to offer coverage on them in Ontario per decline rule # 7.35. If you have any further questions regarding the details of the decline rule, you are welcome to contact our Canada program underwriting company, Aviva.
We do apologize for any disappointment or inconvenience. _________________ ...just wanna ride around in my buggy! |
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mrflew Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2015 Posts: 4 Location: ontario
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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Hi just wondering if anyone in Ontario was able to get insurance other then very expensive facility insurance for for dune buggy this year? I still have had no luck. |
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4925 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:48 am Post subject: |
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MississaugaManx wrote: |
Latest reply from Haggerty....I really wish they would stop calling it a dune buggy. |
Umm... it LOOKS like a dune buggy. Why would they call it anything else?
bnc _________________ I never found the need to impress people with any mechanic certifications, trophies or track wins... unless it was for Mom to post on the refrigerator door. |
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lostinbaja Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2004 Posts: 4036 Location: Frankfort, Illinois
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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Having an insurance company that will not insure a "Dune Buggy" is one of the most unreasonable things they can do.
I had my insurance agent tell me they were unsafe, I asked him if he would insure my new Suzuki Hyabusa instead, he said "sure, no problem". Then I continued to ask him why will you insure a 2 wheeled vehicle with 150 hp and call my 4 wheeled vehicle with 60hp unsafe? No answer? _________________ Jerry...
If it's being towed, it must be a trailer!
"Vee Grow Too Soon Oldt Und Too Late Schmardt"
RIP Morgan
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hillmotorsports Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2014 Posts: 432 Location: Morrisburg, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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You expected logic from an insurance company?
Surely you jest.... _________________ Rosemarie and Paul Hill
Morrisburg, Ontario
(With way more projects than spare time!) |
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MacLeod Willy Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2014 Posts: 933 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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I was told from 2 of the 15 companies that turned me down that all insurance companies have to offer you insurance. Its called "Facility Insurance" You will pass out at the price but both said it will open ay 3500.00/yr and up from that.
Bastards will take your money no problem. |
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Dougy Dee Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2004 Posts: 1668 Location: Niagara Region, CANADA
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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MacLeod Willy wrote: |
I was told from 2 of the 15 companies that turned me down that all insurance companies have to offer you insurance. Its called "Facility Insurance" You will pass out at the price but both said it will open ay 3500.00/yr and up from that.
Bastards will take your money no problem. |
They have to offer insurance on one primary vehicle not extra vehicles. So, your sedan will be covered. They don't have to cover your toy. |
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MacLeod Willy Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2014 Posts: 933 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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Well then, they forgot to mention that little tidbit |
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HeidelbergJohn4.0 Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 1199 Location: Havre de Grace, MD
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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lostinbaja wrote: |
Having an insurance company that will not insure a "Dune Buggy" is one of the most unreasonable things they can do.
I had my insurance agent tell me they were unsafe, I asked him if he would insure my new Suzuki Hyabusa instead, he said "sure, no problem". Then I continued to ask him why will you insure a 2 wheeled vehicle with 150 hp and call my 4 wheeled vehicle with 60hp unsafe? No answer? |
Manufacturer constructed, DOT certified motorcycle, vs Homebuilt vehicle of unknown quality is the primary reason. _________________ 71 LWB Manx style dunebuggy
71 Beetle
71 Volksrod
Machette Speedster
2012 Passat TDI SE (sadly sitting in a buyback parking lot somewhere waiting for it's heart to be ripped out.) |
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4925 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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HeidelbergJohn4.0 wrote: |
lostinbaja wrote: |
Having an insurance company that will not insure a "Dune Buggy" is one of the most unreasonable things they can do.
I had my insurance agent tell me they were unsafe, I asked him if he would insure my new Suzuki Hyabusa instead, he said "sure, no problem". Then I continued to ask him why will you insure a 2 wheeled vehicle with 150 hp and call my 4 wheeled vehicle with 60hp unsafe? No answer? |
Manufacturer constructed, DOT certified motorcycle, vs Homebuilt vehicle of unknown quality is the primary reason. |
^^^ details, details...
bnc _________________ I never found the need to impress people with any mechanic certifications, trophies or track wins... unless it was for Mom to post on the refrigerator door. |
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jrailer Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2014 Posts: 150 Location: utah
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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I went with my normal company that I have my other cars and home with 90 a month for 20k coverage. I don't know why hagerty doesn't cover I had a kit 23 t bucket that was not near as safe as my manxter and they do all the fiberglass ford kits go figure |
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Tom_Kathleen Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2004 Posts: 918 Location: Vernon, CT
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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jrailer - a little off topic but, Hagerty just took on Kathleen's Manxter and our (real) Manx. They just wanted to see the Meyers Manx tag on the body. They acted like they had never heard of a Manxter. But they know now. Tom _________________ Manxter #16, 1968 Meyers Manx & Kick-Out SS #16 (WIP)
Manx Club & CVA |
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porkey Samba Member
Joined: October 31, 2010 Posts: 75 Location: eastern Ontario
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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Tom_Kathleen wrote: |
jrailer - a little off topic but, Hagerty just took on Kathleen's Manxter and our (real) Manx. They just wanted to see the Meyers Manx tag on the body. They acted like they had never heard of a Manxter. But they know now. Tom |
That's how silly this has become. A man could duct tape a Manx together, while another could go overboard on safety with his clone and not qualify???...
I know a safety check is in order but ,...just say'n...? |
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dunebuggy1957 Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2015 Posts: 31 Location: Parry sound
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Tom_Kathleen Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2004 Posts: 918 Location: Vernon, CT
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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Part of the problem here is what cars have been called "Dune Buggies" lately. Tube chassis off road cars should be called sand rails. Little ATV's should not be called dune buggies. It seems any off road vehicle is now called a dune buggy. The insurance companies don't know the difference, and it causes problems. Just my $0.02 Tom _________________ Manxter #16, 1968 Meyers Manx & Kick-Out SS #16 (WIP)
Manx Club & CVA |
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Glasser Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2007 Posts: 1640 Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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you are welcome to contact our Canada program underwriting company, Aviva. |
Contact Aviva!
That is who I am insured with.
Not sure how it works in other provinces but in Alberta you register the vehicle to get the plate, you are free to go where ever you want for insurance....
My buggy is registered and insured as a 1960 modified dune buggy.
I had to get an appraisal done, insurance is based off the appraisal. _________________ Brent
My build up http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=265364&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Project#2. Neighbors build up. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=327008 |
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BIGMIKEY Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2007 Posts: 1102 Location: North East Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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Tom_Kathleen wrote: |
Part of the problem here is what cars have been called "Dune Buggies" lately. Tube chassis off road cars should be called sand rails. Little ATV's should not be called dune buggies. It seems any off road vehicle is now called a dune buggy. The insurance companies don't know the difference, and it causes problems. Just my $0.02 Tom |
I 100% agree with this.
Mike T _________________ BIGMIKEY
Deserter Series 1 project.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=787047&highlight=
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cwat1982 Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 143 Location: Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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I'm in the same boat as Glasser. Registered the buggy and picked up the plates no problem.
I went through Competition Insurance (www.competition.ca), offices in Edmonton and Calgary. They insured me via Hagerty, best rate I could find by far... with better coverage.
Cheers,
CWAT _________________ 1970 Joe Poty Sand Rover T Bug Pickup, 2095cc |
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MacLeod Willy Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2014 Posts: 933 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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Glasser wrote: |
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you are welcome to contact our Canada program underwriting company, Aviva. |
Contact Aviva!
That is who I am insured with.
Not sure how it works in other provinces but in Alberta you register the vehicle to get the plate, you are free to go where ever you want for insurance....
My buggy is registered and insured as a 1960 modified dune buggy.
I had to get an appraisal done, insurance is based off the appraisal. |
In Ontario you must prove it is insured before you get the plates |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15280 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Canada Dune Buggy Insurance Is No Longer Possible? |
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Call your fiberglass car a "Kit Car" instead of a Dune Buggy. Like said above all off road vehicles are now called Dune Buggy's. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
2010 Sportsman ET Champion - Mid-America Dragway - Arkansas City, KS
1997 Sportsman ET Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble ,OK
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