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Justbuggin175 Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2013 Posts: 85 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:30 pm Post subject: Upgraded tie rods |
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Who makes some strong tie rods ? I still have my stock steering box |
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MacLeod Willy Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2014 Posts: 933 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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You can drop a steel rod inside, or pipe it on the outside |
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VW Habit Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2010 Posts: 146 Location: San Clemente, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Like MacLeod Willy says, you can put a solid rod on the inside or pipe on the outside. If your front beam is cut and turned to increase the ride height and you go with the pipe on the outside, the larger diameter tie rods may hit the frame head. |
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MacLeod Willy Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2014 Posts: 933 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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It also looks like a neater job on the inside.
Just leave a 1/2 of clearance on the inside for future front end alignments.
A dab of silicon to stop it from rattling too |
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earthquake Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2008 Posts: 3984 Location: SANDY VALLEY, NEVADA
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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You can cut a stock VW sway bar to put inside the stock tie rods, they fit perfect.
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Justbuggin175 Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2013 Posts: 85 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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I have lift spindle and I was pushing around the idea of welding a tube on the outside, but does any one make these? |
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chubby53 Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2005 Posts: 2106 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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i think i got mine from tweeds. they are 1" OD with ford ends. they also have a machined hex on the ends for easy adjustment. Realitively inexpensive too.
i did have to modifiy my frame tunnel quite a bit though. I cut out a 1-1/2" deep x 2 or 3" wide section and welded in a chunk of 1/4" thick channel so i could have more down travel without hitting the tunnel. It's holding up so far. i even jumped at 35 MPH on the dunes. (it was AWESOME-my glove box door popped open, my battery died-i think i blew out a cell- and i bent both rear trailing arms, but my front end held up!! haha _________________ My build:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=385100 |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Justbuggin175 wrote: |
I have lift spindle and I was pushing around the idea of welding a tube on the outside, but does any one make these? |
Homedepot sells pipe, I did it on my truck
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wythac Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2004 Posts: 2791
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Its been awhile, but I think I used either 1/2" or 3/4" gas pipe (black pipe) to lengthen my tie rods for my wider warrior beam.
I cut the original tie rods in equal halfs. I drilled three 3/8" holes near each end of the measured cut length of black pipe. I slid each half of the original tie rods/rod ends into the spindle dropout and pitman arm. With the wheels as straight as I could get them, I tack welded the ends and filled the holes I drilled with puddled welds. They are very strong. |
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tripicana Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2003 Posts: 1164 Location: colorado springs
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:16 am Post subject: |
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I like keeping my stock tie rods the weak link. Bend one and it's easier and cheaper to replace than spindles or steering box. _________________ foam cowboy hats aren't good helmets. |
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wythac Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2004 Posts: 2791
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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With a wider than stock beam, stock tie rods aren't really an option. There is about a 3" gap in the middle of each tie rod where the ends of the two inner stock rods don't meet that suffices as a default failure/weaker point. They would bend before a German spindle. |
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