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wompninja Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:20 pm Post subject: Rear Disk Brake Hard Lines |
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Has anyone installed the CB Rotohub rear disk brake kit? How did you route the hardline? It seems like they gave me about a foot too much line. What's the best way to do this? Just a big loop down into the caliper?
_________________ Pics of my 1970 Satin Black Type 1 build |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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is the end of the hard line flared? You can get a flare tool at Sears for semi-cheap _________________ Wash your hands
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wompninja Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah it's flared, I have a flare tool so chopping it is not a problem. I just don't know if having a big loop hanging off the end is a good idea since it'll be so close to the tire. _________________ Pics of my 1970 Satin Black Type 1 build |
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royraison Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2009 Posts: 87 Location: S Oregon
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Just don't use it ,, buy a front disk brake flex line and use it in place of what was in the kit,,I did it fit perfect, and I thought it should have been flex to start with,,,
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if the rear brake lines have to be equal length.
But yea, loop it so it's nowhere close to anything moving. _________________ Wash your hands
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wompninja Samba Member
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royraison Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2009 Posts: 87 Location: S Oregon
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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No I don't have any pics as I'm in Hong Kong right now and the car my 70 vert is in Oregon,,I'll be back in a week if you still need pics .
Its simple just get a pair of front disk flex lines they are just a bit shorter than the ones for drums and turned out to be a perfect fit,,
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ps2375 Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2014 Posts: 2471 Location: Meridian,ID
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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And, no the lines do not need to be the same length. It is a closed hydraulic system, so length plays no part in this equation. |
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'd run it. I like hard lines because they don't bubble. Also if something happens, say a line fault, you can pinch the line. _________________ Wash your hands
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cbeck Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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DON'T use the hardline at the caliper! The caliper is supposed to slide freely to prevent pads on one side dragging. The hard line will fail prematurely due to the stress and vibration,thats what the flexible brake lines are for. |
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ps2375 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Have to agree with that, if it is currently a floating caliper, a hard will def prevent that. |
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wompninja Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Good to know, I thought it was a little weird. Now I just need to find a brake hose that will work. _________________ Pics of my 1970 Satin Black Type 1 build |
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Her74buggy Samba Member
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Raceace24 Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2013 Posts: 202 Location: PA.
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:47 am Post subject: |
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I have that setup and here's a pic of how it is bent:
I have 6.5" wide rear wheels and there are no clearance issues. Not sure if a hideaway muff setup would clear it, but I think it would.
And as far as this setup stopping the caliper from sliding, that isn't an issue at all. The movement of the caliper from the brakes being applied is so miniscule, it couldn't possibly affect the hard line attached to it. There is more than enough flex there to even pull and hang the caliper away in the wheel well to work on the rotor, bearing, etc. like I did.
The stainless flex line isn't a bad idea, I just don't see the benefits of them being installed justifying the cost. _________________ ~ No matter where you go......there you are ~
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Her74buggy Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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You are right, they aren't necessary but neither are rear disc 😋
I went through two sets of hard lines then went to the stainless. Much easier but each to their own. |
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Her74buggy Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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You are right, they aren't necessary but neither are rear disc 😋
I went through two sets of hard lines then went to the stainless. Much easier but each to their own. |
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Raceace24 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Her74buggy wrote: |
You are right, they aren't necessary but neither are rear disc 😋
I went through two sets of hard lines then went to the stainless. Much easier but each to their own. |
Not sure why you would go through two sets of hard lines unless you have rear brake issues or didn't bend the lines properly, (they shouldn't flex at all during normal driving), but if you got the $$$, and wanna spend it, who am I to judge? _________________ ~ No matter where you go......there you are ~
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APPLEGREENVW Samba Member
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Raceace24 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:51 am Post subject: |
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APPLEGREENVW wrote: |
To bad no one makes a rear disc brake kit with backing plates to give it that oem look. |
I removed the backing plates from my front disc brakes because all they do is lessen brake cooling and allow condensation, dirt and brake dust to accumulate on the inside of the rotors, spindles and inside bearing seals.
The only time you see them anymore in aftermarket applications are racing ones that have openings in them to attach to brake air ducting for cooling purposes. _________________ ~ No matter where you go......there you are ~
Michael E ~ Raceace24
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57BLITZ Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2012 Posts: 2385 Location: DEEK - U.S.A.
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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That's the way to go!
A hard line into a floating caliper is a BAD idea . . . and it is a bad idea no mater how many people have already mistakenly done it to their V.W.s!!! _________________ Jesucristo es mi Seņor y Salvador! |
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