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crazy horse Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2011 Posts: 121 Location: ENGLAND
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:34 am Post subject: Rocker covers.. are bolt on ally better |
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hi
are bolt on ally rocker covers better for sealing and heat dissipation please.
if so any recommendations as per best quality.
many thanks
rob |
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volksaddict Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2003 Posts: 1724
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:41 am Post subject: |
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No. |
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Derek Cobb Annoying
Joined: March 11, 2004 Posts: 2565
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I concur "No" |
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oorwullie Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: fribourg,switzerland
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:04 am Post subject: |
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i think they could be good as window boxes with some herbs planted.
i wouldn't suggest using them on an aircooled VW no matter how "cool" you think they look when you lay mirrors under the car at a showground. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:44 am Post subject: |
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If you need to cool the engine better would look else where. Please do post images of the engine and a little info on it, like size, DH or not, Etc.... _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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crazy horse Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2011 Posts: 121 Location: ENGLAND
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:03 am Post subject: covers |
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hi guys
i am not looking for just something thats bling if it serves no purpose.
my engine is a 1914 motor with for house cooler twin del 45s etc.
i am looking to improve on standard but if its best standard then i am happy to keep as it is. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:55 am Post subject: Re: covers |
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crazy horse wrote: |
with for house cooler |
What is that? Got images? _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10198 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Some people prefer the bolt on ones because you can add breathers. Some people say they seal better and have less chance of sucking a gasket. Some of them are bigger for higher ratio rocker arms. Some people just think they look cool. Run what you want. |
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oorwullie Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: fribourg,switzerland
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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campingbox wrote: |
Some people prefer the bolt on ones because you can add breathers. Some people say they seal better and have less chance of sucking a gasket. Some of them are bigger for higher ratio rocker arms. Some people just think they look cool. Run what you want. |
it wouldn't be difficult to drill a hole and braze a tube onto a standard lid. |
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telford dorr Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2009 Posts: 3555 Location: San Diego (Encinitas)
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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The reason stock rocker covers work so well and are recommended is because they use the wire bail as a retainer. It's big advantage is that it maintains constant pressure on the gasket over a wide range of engine temperatures. Bolt-on rocker covers don't. With bolt-on covers, as engine temperature increases, the gasket is compressed more; as the engine cools, the pressure is reduced. This constant cycling leads a fatigued rocker gasket and subsequent oil leaks.
And if a bolt falls out, big trouble. Stock wire bails (in proper shape) don't ever fall off. _________________ '71 panel, now with FI
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5969 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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When installing a wider than stock engine, sometimes the heads and valve covers end up right against the body sheetmetal, and any flex can knock a cover loose. On my street car, with big stroker motor, I used to knock the passenger side cover loose if I hit a bump while flooring it. That's why I run the bolt on covers, with the bolts safety wired. They do absolutely nothing to help cool the engine though..
Not something I'd do unless I liked the look, or had covers knocked loose. |
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tisius Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2011 Posts: 1570 Location: Rotterdam,NL (+Chicago,IL)
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:49 am Post subject: |
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I've been using the Empi bolt-on valve covers for years without any issues. They don't leak, and I essentially installed them because its convenient for valve adjustments: you just unbolt them (no shaved knuckles...you know what I mean if you've been there). There are 2 bolts keeping the cover in place, and I never had one loosening up so far. Also they are aluminum and ribbed, so I suppose heat dissipation is a little better (but probably not all that much though, let's no get overexcited here) than the stock steel valve covers.
The silicon gaskets haven't leaked so far, but I've found that after a few years of daily usage they do show some minor cracking in the material here and there; no too bad because there are replacement gaskets on the market.
I drive all year round, so with the salt in the winter, I noticed that the shiny aluminium of the covers has gotten dull and stained a bit (I don't polish them every week ), and the black paint in between the ribs has somewhat gone. But then again, I didn't buy them to become a cool kid (cause I already am ), but for convenience and reliability in the end. _________________ drive it like you just robbed the bank
you don't have to be crazy to be into VW's, but it sure helps!!
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