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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13843 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:29 pm Post subject: Traffic Stop |
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I was pulled over today. According to the Sheriff " in the state of Arizona you cannot have items hanging from you inside rear view mirror"
I asked him if he was a student of another office I know. He asked how I know him. I worked with him. He told me to get out of here leave. Never checked my information.
It gives law enforcement resonable cause to stop you. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Anything is probable cause, peace officers are above the law. _________________ Wash your hands
'69 Bug
'68 Baja Truck
'71 Bug
'68 Camper
Only losers litter |
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mountainkowboy Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2008 Posts: 951 Location: Socal
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Brian wrote: |
Anything is probable cause, peace officers are above the law. |
At least THEY think so! _________________ Chuck in Socal
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71 Super Convertible...DD
78 Honda CB750K
06 Honda CR-V (wifes)
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kamesama980 Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2014 Posts: 323 Location: Columbus, IN
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Number of years ago I got a warning in OH doing 4 over on the interstate in an 02 Buick Century. "You were coming around that curve a little fast don't you think?". clear, sunny day. sparse traffic (maybe a car every 1/2 mile) Pretty sure it was because I had IL plates.
or he just wanted to know who would be in a Buick Century going faster than 10 under the limit. _________________ -Russell
"You don't get to blame me for how I fix what you break"
1970 VW Beetle
1994 Pontiac Firebird
2001 BMW R1200C
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Longrifle Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2010 Posts: 313 Location: Chino Hills, CA
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:49 am Post subject: |
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This applies to California drivers:
26708. (a) (1) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any
object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied
upon the windshield or side or rear windows.
(2) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any object or
material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon
the vehicle that obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view
through the windshield or side windows. _________________ Longrifle
67’ sedan
66’ SO-42 |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31271 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Traffic Stop |
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gt1953 wrote: |
I was pulled over today. According to the Sheriff " in the state of Arizona you cannot have items hanging from you inside rear view mirror". It gives law enforcement reasonable cause to stop you. |
Yep, technically illegal, but most often used as "probable cause".
In reality, EVERY officer can EASILY come up with a probable cause to stop someone. Going too slow can be indicative of being "careful" because of too much alcohol. Going too fast is speeding, technically 1 mph over is speeding. Turning too wide or too tight, turn signal turned on 10 feet too close to the intersection whatever.
Up in Chino Valley the officers have their radar on full time. But at least it's not a scam-trap like Mayer or Star Valley. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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kamesama980 Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2014 Posts: 323 Location: Columbus, IN
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Longrifle wrote: |
This applies to California drivers:
26708. (a) (1) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any
object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied
upon the windshield or side or rear windows.
(2) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any object or
material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon
the vehicle that obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view
through the windshield or side windows. |
Lol don't drive from a lot of places to cali. chicago requires a "city sticker" (that you pay for) that affixes to the inside of the windshield. Lots of subdivisions, state parks, etc do too. So where do Californians put the oil change reminder sticker?
As for chris rock, I read an article on yahoo about that and one of the cases he and his buddy were pulled over speeding in an orange Lamborghini. Speeding in an orange exotic, yea I'm sure they ONLY pulled him over for being black. _________________ -Russell
"You don't get to blame me for how I fix what you break"
1970 VW Beetle
1994 Pontiac Firebird
2001 BMW R1200C
2003 Subaru Baja |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13843 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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ASRS 28-959.01 12.b reads like this;
(b) Where the rearview mirror would commonly be positioned if the motor vehicle is without a windshield mounted rearview mirror.
B. Except as otherwise provided in this section, a person shall not operate a motor vehicle with an object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed or applied on the windshield or side or rear windows or with an object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed or applied in or on the motor vehicle in a manner that obstructs or reduces a driver's clear view through the windshield or side or rear windows.
I am like hmmm. Better remove my SAMBA sticker. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Manfred58sc Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2009 Posts: 3374
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Colorado plates= cop stop out of state _________________ Fat chick owner/operator |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2000 Posts: 4164 Location: Pasadena CA/DTLA soon China
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Traffic Stop |
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gt1953 wrote: |
I was pulled over today. According to the Sheriff " in the state of Arizona you cannot have items hanging from you inside rear view mirror"
I asked him if he was a student of another office I know. He asked how I know him. I worked with him. He told me to get out of here leave. Never checked my information.
It gives law enforcement resonable cause to stop you. |
Did you get a ticket? Anytime a cop pulls you over and you dont get cited is like walking away from a crash landing _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13843 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:33 am Post subject: |
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No citation. Like mentioned the officer did not look at any of my information. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31271 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:13 am Post subject: |
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gt1953 wrote: |
No citation. Like mentioned the officer did not look at any of my information. |
When I was stopped in Chino Valley AZ a few years ago along a lonely rural road, cop said I went through a stop sign, then 1/2 mile (really) later said I was going too slowly (no street light at intersection) and turned too wide (which by actuality would've put me in someone's front yard !!!).
He checked my papers, made me walk the line, the flashlight thing, all after I had asked for breath-lyzer test for alcohol once he accused me. He also asked twice why the tailgate of the Suburban had been repainted, and I wanted to tell him that it's my vehicle, and I can do anything I goddamm want to it; but I explained GM peeling with low-VOC paint instead. Once I blew 0.019, over 4 times below the limit, he let me go, no citations or warnings. Apparently he had some shred of integrity remaining, or just knew that the "geography" of the road would turn over his probable causes anyway. He was just fishing, like in gt1953's incident above. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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M1Lover Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2015 Posts: 4 Location: Jerome, Arizona
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:59 am Post subject: Do NOT Speed in Jerome!! |
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Not even a little. Our little town of 450 has SIX police officers. Arithmetically that's 1 officer per 75 citizens. Yes, we are troublemakers up here. Actually its a retirement town. They swear its to protect us from the bikers and tourists.
That said, they pay for their police presence with speeding ticket revenue! 20MPH means 20! OK, well 22 or 23, but if you get ticketed its like $250, so go slow in your 36HP powered road machines and enjoy the scenery. |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33883 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:37 am Post subject: |
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kamesama980 wrote: |
or he just wanted to know who would be in a Buick Century going faster than 10 under the limit. |
The kicker was that your turn signal was not on continuously. Something was obviously out of kilter there. He was right to stop you. |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33883 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Longrifle wrote: |
This applies to California drivers:
26708. (a) (1) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any
object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied
upon the windshield or side or rear windows.
(2) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any object or
material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon
the vehicle that obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view
through the windshield or side windows. |
A recent added section:
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(b) This section does not apply to (12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted in a 7- inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver or in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag deployment zone, if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated. |
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(b) This section does not apply to any of the following:
(3) Signs, stickers, or other materials that are displayed in a
seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest
removed from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials that are
displayed in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the rear
window farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other
materials that are displayed in a five-inch square in the lower
corner of the windshield nearest the driver. |
I think there are also exemptions for toll transponders. |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I realy dont care if I get pulled over.never have.if I have done something rong it's on me. if not Ill fight it. but I do know not to start shit with barny.any shit. dont show my ass, dont run my mouth.dont act stupid or guilty. Im not in it for a big pay day.... or funeral . but sadly some are. |
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Lost in Space Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2012 Posts: 133 Location: Bug Infested Forest, next to the REZ
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Manfred58sc wrote: |
Colorado plates= cop stop out of state |
Especially with a vintage VW.
With the newfound priveledges, comes extra persecution. _________________ Im not living in the past........but I sure as hell intend to bring some of the past into the future !! |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2000 Posts: 4164 Location: Pasadena CA/DTLA soon China
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Lost in Space wrote: |
Manfred58sc wrote: |
Colorado plates= cop stop out of state |
Especially with a vintage VW.
With the newfound priveledges, comes extra persecution. |
Might be legal but it still WRONG! _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
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TheAmazingDave Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2013 Posts: 788 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Probably jinxing myself, but I currently have no front plate or bumper, prerequisite fuzzy dice on mirror, and stickers on my back side windows from parts vendors/suppliers, and I've never been hassled by police. That includes driving around in Arizona for a week.
Cops (mostly) dig VWs. Don't drive like an asshat, and they'll leave you alone. _________________ Just call me Big D. (formerly xBigDx408x)
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