Kadron setup woes.

madmike · Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:57 am Post subject:

can't see anyone using those 'Regulators' don't he know they just restrict the flow? Yes get a Holley
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Krmnnghia · Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:00 am Post subject:

Ordered the Holley unit and a gauge last night. Hopefully will be here tomorrow if Amazon is nice. Will get the rest of my tune up parts today and do valves tonight to be sure we're good there.

Krmnnghia · Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:43 pm Post subject:

Got new Cap, Rotor, Points, and Condenser and installed today. Set points at .016. She fired right up and sounded much better but still pretty rich(I understand I need to adjust the carbs again after all these changes). Checked Dwell and it was perfect at 48. Checked timing at 7.5 but forgot to plug the vac line. Will redo this tomorrow.

Still waiting for my new Fuel Pressure regulator and Gauge. Valves and an oil change tonight if I can stay awake. Will report back tomorrow.

Krmnnghia · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:10 pm Post subject:

Great news guys. As always, the masses were right. My problem was that junk "regulator". Swapped to the Holley this afternoon and dialed it in to 1.75psi. Made sure my timing was good at 32 full advance. Dialed in the mix as good as I could and voila...no longer running rich, runs through the gears with no backfire, sounds great and idles great.

I do have a partial throttle issue I can deal with later. I'll try and get video of it this weekend. Thanks for everyone's help thus far. Cool

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[email protected] · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:24 pm Post subject:

Masses were WRONG, because that "regulator" is the one most folks use. They are junk.

Now look at your plugs, they are probably coloring properly now. And now you can dial in the jetting. You are almost surely still too rich given how most guys jet Kadrons.

PS: NICE CAR
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Krmnnghia · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:29 pm Post subject:

Thanks John. I still have fiddling to do and much to learn about properly tuning carbs. I'm sure I'll get there Wink

Krmnnghia · Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 8:02 pm Post subject:

OK I got about 30ish or so miles on her before she started backfiring again. Pulled the plugs tonight. Here we go again:

So 2 looks pretty much the same as it did previously. Unsure why that one plug is different when I am running dual singles. Car is still running too rich. Fuel pressure seems to be at 2psi so I can drop that down to 1.5 and try and dial her in again with new plugs. Thoughts?

Also going to try and give Jeff at Kaddie Shack a call tomorrow.

madmike · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 4:38 am Post subject:

You already know what I'm Thinking Rolling Eyes

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Krmnnghia · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 5:33 am Post subject:

W1K1 · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:44 am Post subject:

That's pretty rich, you might want to rejet those things, it will wake right up if it's not getting doused with gas
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Krmnnghia · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:36 pm Post subject:

Talked to Jeff from Kaddy Shack for a bit today. He thinks for my motor, the carbs are jetted correctly. Said I should go back to square one, set timing at 32 max, set idle at 1100, re-sync and get the mixture right. So will try that again.

[email protected] · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:39 pm Post subject:

Do you even know what size jets they have in them, or are they the super-secret ones that aren't marked?

What size venturis?
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Krmnnghia · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:47 pm Post subject:

[email protected] · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:09 pm Post subject:

I'll ask again; venturis?
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Krmnnghia · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:17 pm Post subject:

32 venturis.

Heads are Outlaw 40x35.5. Based off of what I have read, 32's should be fine.

Krmnnghia · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 11:59 am Post subject:

OK so I have ordered 55 Idles and 140 mains from Aircooled.net. Hope shipping times are kind to me. Smile

Got a show in 2 weeks so I need to get her all ready.

Appreciate your thoughts/opinion on this John.

[email protected] · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 12:48 pm Post subject:

at least you'll know where you are at with those.
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madmike · Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 4:19 am Post subject:

Sweet see ya @ 'Yipsi, (Vintage VW fest ) Cool

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Krmnnghia · Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 9:53 pm Post subject:

Shipping was very fast. Got the jets and idles today and installed them tonight. Piece of cake. Float bowls looked clean New set of plugs in gapped at .28. I don't have a jet gauge to check but it is obvious the jets that came with the set were larger than 140. Tomorrow I will crank her over and reset everything. See if I can dial her in.

140 on top, unknown size on bottom.

Krmnnghia · Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 8:05 pm Post subject:

Played with things tonight to see if I could get her running half way decent. No Luck. I need some clarification from a few of the Kad tuning experts here because hours on the samba produces wildly different results.

1. Currently I have the Balance tube on. I find old posts stating the AJ prefers the ports capped if running a SVDA(which I am) as it tends to hide issues. Thoughts?

2. Idle: I hear 1000-1100 and also 850-900.

3.Vacuum: currently have an 034 with the vacuum line running to a 'T' and then to both carb ports. Some say I only need 1 carb hooked up and I have even read that hooking up to both carbs needs to be done a specific way with special brass fittings?

4. Timing: Everyone says set the timing with the vacuum line taken off the canister and the canister port capped. Currently I am set at 3000rpm at 32*. With 8:1 compression I have read I should shoot for more like 28-30. thoughts?

5. Fuel pressure is set at 1.75. Tried 1.5 and 2 and really no difference.

6. Also I noticed today while attempting to tune that both my intake manifolds were ice cold with heavy condensation. This was with the car running for a good 10 min.

Appreciate the help guys. This process is quite new to me and slightly frustrating...


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