Oil Screen Size Question

[panpan388]

My engine code starts with FO. From what the charts show, it is a '66 1300cc. So, I ordered an Empi 9923, which is to have a 14mm diameter collar in it for the size of the oil pick-up tube. I'm not sure if I received the correct part though. I used calipers to measure the diameter of the hole, and it is measuring 18mm. I measured the actual tube and it measures 14.5mm. Am I correct when I am assuming that the 14mm collar in the oil screen "expands" over the tube when it is installed? I am assuming that it is supposed to be a close fit over the tube.

[grandpa pete]

Your only mistake was ordering anything from Empi

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113115175

Those don't fit tight just line up the screw holes and PLEASE don't overtighten the screw caps .
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[panpan388]

Ha. I've been hearing that a lot!
Did Empi just make up the 3 different sizes that they have available? Other websites show different screens for different years and different size engines.
I just want to use the correct parts and not slap it together with parts that work, but might not be the correct part.
I've been finding out that the previous owners of my buggy just put parts in that weren't really the correct parts.

[Tim Donahoe]

Some Empi products simply don't fit.

Tim
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[Desmo9]

[Zylinderkopf]

Desmo9: Unfortunately you seem to be right about this. The correct oil screens with the smaller collar are unavailable from any parts house that I've checked. I wanted to replace the one that's in my '66 because it's pretty beat up, but ended up with a collection of incorrect late model screens. I'm forced to hold on to the worn out screen I have now.
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[Desmo9]

After a ridiculous amount of time spent on this... There are three bulk part numbers each ending in 175. 175 with no suffix should fit a 14mm tube, 175A a 16mm, and 175B a 18-19mm. Many of the base 175 screens have no spring collar, just a formed screen. Initially this was available with a collar from WW at 14mm. The collar makes it nice and secure, and supports the screen's shape. Now WW sells the same 175 part number branded as fitting everything from 40hp up (meaning cars that would have been equipped with 14, 16, and 18 mm, I believe), and what they stock has a 18mm collar. Ie it should be a B, for later models, and is not for an earlier car. Expected better from WW.

I've found that there are various 175A screens that, while advertised for 68-69 models (which I presume use a 16mm tube), are 14mm in relaxed form but will expand to 16mm. These work fine in my 66, they slide over the 14mm pick-up perfectly. Some leading resto-parts shops are saying that only the large-hole (18mm) is now available, and they appear to be wrong.

[Cusser]

JBugs lists a screen with a larger opening, and one with a smaller opening. You may need to call them for measurements.
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[Desmo9]

Yes was on the phone with JBugs for a while, first place I went after getting an RMA number from WW. Check their listing closely, they say they no longer stock small and large. So I asked the rep to measure the one they sell, and he told me he was unable to do so.

[Cusser]