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jspbtown Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5156
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:23 am Post subject: Why don't people respond.....rant |
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So I am in the market for a replacement car (non-VW...daily driver) and I am scanning the classic sites like cars.com and autotrader. New cars pop up as "newly listed" and if they are interesting to me I fire off an email to the seller asking some basic questions (original owner, accident damage, etc etc).
I am getting absolutely no responses. I understand that people are scammer cautious, so how do you create your email so they know you are not a scammer? I always identify the car, where I saw the ad, use my full name, and ask real pointed questions. Still nothing.
Maybe the response link from those sites go into their junk box. I don't know. Why put an ad out there if you don't respond to inquiries? |
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cdnltded Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2015 Posts: 381 Location: Pincher Creek, Alberta
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:26 am Post subject: |
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it not just there. i have had the same experience on many sites, whether it was a for sale site or a forum
all i can say is, patience is a virtue |
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MacLeod Willy Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2014 Posts: 933 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:29 am Post subject: |
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I feel your aggravation.
Its just as bad as all the people coming on a certain day and time, and can you hold the item and never show up. |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69823 Location: Phoenix Metro
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oorwullie Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: fribourg,switzerland
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:42 am Post subject: |
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in my experience if anyone is genuinely serious about an advertised car, guitar or whatever then they will pick up the phone and call.
any skoolkid or scammer can type emails or text messages and i think a lot of advertisers are aware of this too these days. |
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windfish Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2012 Posts: 1126 Location: NC
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Yep, if there's a phone number listed always try that.
If not, put yours in the email and ask them to give you a call.
My dad will only respond to emails that include phone numbers.
Also, I've had much better luck with craigslist when looking for cars.
Ten years ago I bought a '94 Ranger ext cab with 67k miles off craigslist for $2500. Ads on autotrader, cars.com etc all wanted 5 - 6k for the exact same truck. |
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greg mgm Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2004 Posts: 573 Location: Pine Cove/ IdyllwildCA
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Agree with Windfish about Craigslist, but the no response thing can happen even if you call. We looked for a car about a year ago and got no call backs many times. I think its a combination of flakiness and being too busy. |
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TimGud Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2002 Posts: 6459 Location: Rio Rico Arizona
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:41 am Post subject: |
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I generally respond to my ads with the exception of those written that look like spam. Even then I usually respond and expect it to go nowhere. That said they usually follow the same basic script. Maybe your wording is close to that??? |
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jspbtown Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5156
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Yeah...I have sold several cars and I am pretty adept to picking out the scam emails so I try to phrase them in ways that sound intelligent, that identify the car, reference things said in the ad and ask good questions.
I don't have time to sit and chat on the phone about cars that 30 minutes into the discussion I find out that they are selling for a "friend' or something stupid like that. |
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windfish Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2012 Posts: 1126 Location: NC
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:00 am Post subject: |
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jspbtown wrote: |
I don't have time to sit and chat on the phone about cars that 30 minutes into the discussion I find out that they are selling for a "friend' or something stupid like that. |
Heh.
That was more or less my dad's response when I asked why he didn't respond via email -- he doesn't have time to deal with people who wont pick up the phone.
But yeah, I mean. I've written a few detailed, nicely formatted, and well worded emails asking questions about stuff on craigslist.
People very rarely bothered to answer, usually just a "you want to come see it?" so I don't bother anymore.
I'll just ask when I can come see it and if I really want it I'll list a phone number.
btw, "...so, why are you selling?" will weed out most of those "selling for a friend" and expose some of the severe bullshitters.
Always get interesting answers to that one. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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windfish wrote: |
btw, "...so, why are you selling?" will weed out most of those "selling for a friend" and expose some of the severe bullshitters.
Always get interesting answers to that one. |
Yes, I ALWAYS ask why they are selling !!! Very telling sometimes. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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jspbtown Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5156
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah...that's a great second question....IF I could get there!
These cars are in all parts of the country. To be honest they are a little more than I want to pay, but sometimes if you establish a relationship with someone so if a circumstance changes they have your contact and know that you are ready to buy.
Its a lot easier to be selective when you want to buy a car versus when you need to buy a car. |
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greg mgm Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2004 Posts: 573 Location: Pine Cove/ IdyllwildCA
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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A very important question to ask is if the pink slip is in their name. That rules out 50% of sellers for me. |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69823 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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oorwullie wrote: |
in my experience if anyone is genuinely serious about an advertised car, guitar or whatever then they will pick up the phone and call.
any skoolkid or scammer can type emails or text messages and i think a lot of advertisers are aware of this too these days. |
I agree with you on the first part but it is VERY common to do text-only deals these days, even with full-grown adults.
I recently sold some stuff locally to a lady who was around 40 and I don't think she ever called me, only texted/emailed. She was smart enough not to come to my house alone at night though.
I also think people who are only texting you are more flaky too. _________________ How to Post Photos
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oorwullie Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: fribourg,switzerland
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:30 am Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
oorwullie wrote: |
in my experience if anyone is genuinely serious about an advertised car, guitar or whatever then they will pick up the phone and call.
any skoolkid or scammer can type emails or text messages and i think a lot of advertisers are aware of this too these days. |
I agree with you on the first part but it is VERY common to do text-only deals these days, even with full-grown adults.
I recently sold some stuff locally to a lady who was around 40 and I don't think she ever called me, only texted/emailed. She was smart enough not to come to my house alone at night though.
I also think people who are only texting you are more flaky too. |
i know what you mean and understand that almost everybody today has an i phone thing but i can't be bothered texting a lot with my old phone.
i give the texters a chance and will reply the first time. when they send me yet another txt i'll reply with CALL ME. and if they send yet another txt i forget it and delete ............. |
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daven Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2009 Posts: 351 Location: Dayton OH
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:58 am Post subject: |
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How about the guys that want to hammer your price without even seeing the car? When I shop I ask if they are firm on price and wait till I see the car to begin negotiations. I've hung up an some real but heeds - figure when/if they arrive it would only get worse.
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69823 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:38 am Post subject: |
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oorwullie wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
oorwullie wrote: |
in my experience if anyone is genuinely serious about an advertised car, guitar or whatever then they will pick up the phone and call.
any skoolkid or scammer can type emails or text messages and i think a lot of advertisers are aware of this too these days. |
I agree with you on the first part but it is VERY common to do text-only deals these days, even with full-grown adults.
I recently sold some stuff locally to a lady who was around 40 and I don't think she ever called me, only texted/emailed. She was smart enough not to come to my house alone at night though.
I also think people who are only texting you are more flaky too. |
i know what you mean and understand that almost everybody today has an i phone thing but i can't be bothered texting a lot with my old phone.
i give the texters a chance and will reply the first time. when they send me yet another txt i'll reply with CALL ME. and if they send yet another txt i forget it and delete ............. |
This is totally reasonable. I have done this too - "Call me to set up a time" _________________ How to Post Photos
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9471 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:55 am Post subject: |
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if someone is looking for whatever it is you are selling - THEY WILL CONTACT YOU.
...and if you don't get a call or email or whatever...that means nobody is interested!
You bring out something rare, and everybody else is looking for and see what happens. You have to beat them back w/ a stick.
Unless of course your asking price is ungodly too much people might think you actually do NOT want to sell the part.
This is not that hard, man. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:50 am Post subject: |
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When I've responded that I don't have text or picture phone, some sellers just ignore me. Even though I have the cash.
Apparently, they'd rather deal with someone younger who has the electronics but no money. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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TimGud Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Think it's bad here? Try selling stuff on craigslist. I put non-VW items on it and most of what I get are scam e-mails wanting me to contact them at their personal e-mail. Same wording on multiple listings. I never answer them. |
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