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thefladge Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2005 Posts: 1290 Location: Anaheim, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:38 pm Post subject: Bugpack sold to EMPI |
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This is not a prank.
I just found out that Bugpack has been sold to EMPI.
This is horrible news! _________________ 1957 Vintage Baja Bug.
2110cc engine, 40 IDF Webers on Gene Berg manifolds, Engle 110 cam, Bugpack 40×35.5 Street Pro Heads, W8CC plugs, 12.5 pound Flywheel, Kennedy 1700 pound pressure plate. |
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jfats808 Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2007 Posts: 5022 Location: oahu hawaii
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yerp. I heard its true too. _________________ 2276 IDA's 86C 11-1 DD !
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76935 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Closer to the goal of world domination. _________________ Glenn
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thefladge Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2005 Posts: 1290 Location: Anaheim, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ 1957 Vintage Baja Bug.
2110cc engine, 40 IDF Webers on Gene Berg manifolds, Engle 110 cam, Bugpack 40×35.5 Street Pro Heads, W8CC plugs, 12.5 pound Flywheel, Kennedy 1700 pound pressure plate. |
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jbbugs Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2002 Posts: 2152 Location: Behind the wheel
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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What's so horrible? Would it be worse if Bugpack just closed their doors?
I think Not. _________________ Drag bus! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2MOVmKdhX4
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thefladge Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2005 Posts: 1290 Location: Anaheim, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently you are not familiar with the poor quality of EMPI. _________________ 1957 Vintage Baja Bug.
2110cc engine, 40 IDF Webers on Gene Berg manifolds, Engle 110 cam, Bugpack 40×35.5 Street Pro Heads, W8CC plugs, 12.5 pound Flywheel, Kennedy 1700 pound pressure plate. |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Well that means, if you need something that bugpack has, buy it now before their inventory is dried up. _________________ Wash your hands
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76935 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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It means that empi will just package their usual crap with the bugpack name. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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JCQuick Samba Member
Joined: May 25, 2007 Posts: 43 Location: Apopka, Fl.
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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sad but true |
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tattooed_pariah Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2006 Posts: 2047 Location: El Cajon, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I can't be the only one who experienced the quality rollercoasters...
some years Empi had great quality, some years garbage, I had the same luck with bugpack.
the same thing happens in every industry, it seemed like hard drive manufacturers rotated about every 3 years in the late 90's.. Maxtor was top of the line, then dropped their prices and quality, and seagate was best, then did the same, then western digital.. just gotta figure out who is doing the best work when you purchase your parts and try not to buy from someone who still has crappy stock in a warehouse.. _________________ -pariah (just a novice from "that other VW site")
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Marv [UK] Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2009 Posts: 2225 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Not necessarily Glenn. There are plenty of companies that carry two separate product lines of differing quality, however, I fear that you are going to be proven correct. There is likely to be a merging of lines where cost counts for more than quality but I think some of the bugpack range will stay safe. I just hope it's the right stuff
Well, I reckon cb and scat will be happy _________________ The opinion of the author as expressed does not always reflect that of the author nor does he extend any apologies or assume any liability or responsibility for its content or lack thereof or for any lack of humour of the reader of any content at all, anywhere, ever. The reader agrees to all risk by reading it and is advised that any ‘issue’ is theirs alone as they chose to read it. |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21518 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Marv [UK] wrote: |
Not necessarily Glenn. There are plenty of companies that carry two separate product lines of differing quality, however, I fear that you are going to be proven correct. There is likely to be a merging of lines where cost counts for more than quality but I think some of the bugpack range will stay safe. I just hope it's the right stuff
Well, I reckon cb and scat will be happy |
Yes....I agree. There are plenty of company aquisitions where the aquired company....if it has a good product and healthy manufacturing and all of its own resources.....is left alone. It does not always mean that company A with good manufacturing practices has their production lines and process merged with company B with less than good practices.
The benefit to the buying company is that they get access to higher market share and customer lists. In best cases the buying company may also get improvement to their existing production methods.
However....this is all in the best cases. I more than half the cases I have seen the buying company tries meld the whole mess together under one production system.....dilutjng or destroying the better practices of the company they bought. Ray |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15307 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I'm done with VW's _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5411 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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It does make you think though. I think EMPI has made a genuine effort to move upscale in a few markets, carbs for example. Who knows. Could be a good thing. We will have to wait and see. It is unfortunate that EMPI has one less major competitor though. Often times companies get lazy or careless without some competition. Only time will tell. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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left_coast*9 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2009 Posts: 740 Location: Puyallup, WA
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smkn_vw Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2004 Posts: 809
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
It means that empi will just package their usual crap with the bugpack name. |
So they will trick us? Anyway some Bugpack became crap poor welds, molding flash, cheap bolts, etc.. _________________ "So didja?" -Bob Hoover |
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jbbugs Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2002 Posts: 2152 Location: Behind the wheel
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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In the past couple years, Bugpack wasn't delivering on orders. A LOT of it was out of stock, with No ETA when it would return. Ask any of their distributors.
Empi has the buying power to (hopefully) acquire the tooling, and actually produce their parts. Yes, some of their stuff Is Crap....But not all of it.
If they weren't in business, there would be a pretty big hole in the hobby that most likely wouldn't be filled by anyone else.
I say be Thankful. _________________ Drag bus! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2MOVmKdhX4
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7215 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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I know a lot of people were happy with Bugpack. But to quote my old friend Ian Clarke "They all got something we don´t want" Over the last 4-5 years especially, I was´nt that impressed with the BP quality.
If this will stop Empi from copying out dated TM´s and improve the qualtily on some of their products it could help a bit. Think about it. Empi paid Art Traen and Jake Raby to come over and help them sort out a good deal of the issues with the Empi HPMX carbs. Today they are in the better end of the knock off carbs, if not the best. - Can´t believe I said that But is it so.
And What´s wrong with a Super Beetle (?) apart from the fact that it can drive significantly better than the short nose´s.
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Dan Ruddock Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2012 Posts: 3594 Location: Sarasota, in my adopted state of Florida
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Unless I get a good deal on something used from these two companies I don't buy the stuff.
With OG parts and stuff that is avalible from smaller quality orented companies the stuff these two companies crank out is un-nessary.
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4863 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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jbbugs wrote: |
In the past couple years, Bugpack wasn't delivering on orders. A LOT of it was out of stock, with No ETA when it would return. Ask any of their distributors.
Empi has the buying power to (hopefully) acquire the tooling, and actually produce their parts. Yes, some of their stuff Is Crap....But not all of it.
If they weren't in business, there would be a pretty big hole in the hobby that most likely wouldn't be filled by anyone else.
I say be Thankful. |
EXACTLY!
Any orders from Bugpack the shop I used to work at placed within the last few years almost had more parts back ordered than were shipped. Parts ordered from Empi had few, if any back ordered. And since Empi was many times larger than Bugpack, they couldn't come close to the freight rates Empi offered since they shipped out far less volume. NO ONE else is moving forward with promoting/expanding the hobby of Aircooled VW's like Empi. There aren't too many OEM maufactures, Brazilian, or German manufactures that make parts for 35+ year old VW's anymore. This is the future of the hobby. Even Bosch has discontinnued many stock replacement parts, and will soon be discontinuing EVERYTHING for Aircooled VW's. Empi will be a huge part of the future of the hobby. If you can't live with Empi's parts, then you will have a very expensive future of searching in the classifieds, or ebay, for NOS, NLA, non Chinese parts, or like Dave mentioned, get out of the hobby. |
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