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kustomizingkid
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AndyBees
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Based on reading your Thread ^^^^, I'm not sure if there is a bit of sarcasm here or you changed your mind! Where is the project now? I'm interested in what you did.
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MarkWard
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?Waldo?
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| KK, just because you are insecure about your choice and feel threatened by objective comments from a viewpoint other than your own does not mean that those comments have 'prevented you' from doing anything. I certainly do not have the power to prevent you from posting anything. Also, as I have said before in the thread you linked, I could not care less what choice you or anyone else makes regarding their conversion project. Thanks for the link. I'm surprised you'd post it considering how it makes you look. Did you ever figure out which tires and suspension to install and then move on to getting the van operational? |
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Zeitgeist 13
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sheesh, this thread went into the weird-zone
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?Waldo?
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| Andrew, I'm impressed that you have admitted that you read my entire build thread .......... thank you very much. |
Thank you for documenting it. It took more than one sitting but your thread was/is an enjoyable read. I commend you on your efforts and it sounds like you have achieved a good end result. |
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kustomizingkid
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Based on reading your Thread ^^^^, I'm not sure if there is a bit of sarcasm here or you changed your mind! Where is the project now? I'm interested in what you did. |
Just been working on it and turning it into my dirtbike/mountain bike base camp fun machine. Hoping to spend a month this winter using it as a snowboard base camp... Saving my pennies for a new diesel cabin heater 
AHU ETDI, DK Trans, Weddle 3/4, Blah blah blah.
I'm a little sidetracked at the moment putting a 1.6TD in my rabbit truck... VW's are an addiction, I have yet to find the cure |
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?Waldo?
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| KK, I could fairly easily build a bolt-on 1.6TD electronic injection pump for you for your caddy. You could probably run the crank position sensor off the front crank pulley bolts. Pintle lift sensor might be a bit tricky. I think the rest of the AHU enigne management would all cross over. A custom ECU tune would be required. That way you could experience all the same electronic engine management joy on the 1.6TD. |
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kustomizingkid
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| Lets keep this about TDI Vanagons Libby... You can come harass me on Diesel Net or the Vortex about my truck. Lets get back to beating the MTDI vanagon horse. |
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?Waldo?
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Harass you? What are you going on about? How is it that if I point out the upsides of a mechanical injection pump I am harassing you and if I offer to assist you with an electronic engine management solution I'm also harassing you? Both cannot be true. Personally, I don't believe that I've ever harassed you about anything...
Come to think about it, I bet you could use a piezo transducer on the #3 injection line in place of the pintle lift sensor.
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kustomizingkid
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| Are people using songle or dual mass flywheels on their tdis? |
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?Waldo?
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| I am using single mass flywheels on two of my TDIs. The other two have flex plates. |
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kustomizingkid
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| What are people's thoughts on transaxle life on single vs dual mass flywheels? I am very concerned about transaxle life... I am of te belief that it matters way more HOW you drive, but obviously anything you can do to extend the axle life the better. |
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?Waldo?
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It's a bit of a complicated math problem (not unlike that of eTDI vs. mTDI  ). In order to solve it, you would have to study a significant group of users of both the single mass flywheel mated to the vanagon transaxle and dual mass flywheel mated to vanagon trans. You would have to see how often each group has transaxle failures and average the times. You would then have to factor in the 50K-100K dual mass flywheel R+R service and you would also have to factor in the number of transaxles that are destroyed prematurely by the dual mass flywheel failing.
My personal decisions on the matter have been based on the educated guess that the cost in parts/labor of having to replace the dual mass flywheel as a regular service item (at the same time as the timing belt) and occasionally having a destroyed transmission that would also need to be replaced would more than offset any cost savings as a result of the dual mass flywheel extending the life of the trans. I could be wrong. |
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hans j
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I have a single mass on my ALH. Will probably do a dual mass on my AHU conversion when I build it.
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kustomizingkid
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| What flywheel and clutch combos work? Is there some kind of cheat sheet? I have all the stock 82 parts currently, but I want to crank up the power |
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?Waldo?
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| I have a single mass on my ALH. Will probably do a dual mass on my AHU conversion when I build it. |
Is your reasoning that the dual mass flywheel will be easier on the trans by evening out the power pulses? How often do you plan on swapping it out? From what I've read, many do not even last 50k miles. Any concern about a premature dual mass flywheel failure wiping out the vanagon trans? |
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hans j
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Actually I'm not really that concerned of the diesel pulses destroying a trans. I mostly want to just cushion the vibration a little. I'm sure some DMF have failed that early but from what I see at work, they often get 100k out of them if not more. Of course driving style has a lot to do with it, and we aren't terribly hard on the clutch. Hard on the van, yes. But not the clutch!
I have a bunch of used parts around and it's looking like a Passat flywheel, WBX disc and a VR6 pressure plate might work together. Just have to grind off the tabs that stick out on the VR6 and it fits inside the bell housing.
My trans will be built up though, Weddle 5 speed conversion, cooling ports, and I found the contact for the German billet main bearing housing. Expensive yes, but I've heard of some pretty good diesel power being put through them and lasting. I'm only planning a VNT-17 and mild software on it. It will be our "mini van".
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kustomizingkid
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5 speed conversion??
This is news to me... |
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