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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can't see how Bentley would be more authoritative than Volkswagen. Confused


Volkswagen wrote the manual. Bentley just published it in the U.S. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday my light bulb kit from Wolfsburg West came in so I got the fuel gauge light replaced and working.

Getting much better at removing/installing that black plastic bulb holder on the back of the fuel gauge. Rolling Eyes

For reasons unknown Keith had switched around the positions of the headlight and wiper switches which was making it hard to drop the fuse box as there wasn't a lot of slack in the wiring with the headlight switch in the far left position. So I took the opportunity to switch those back around to where they're supposed to be. Gives me more room to drop the fuse box anyway.

Keith was also having issues with the washer system leaking into the car from the switch when pressurized so he had deactivated it. So I picked up an NOS switch from the classifieds in the hope that the internal seals would still be good (a bit of a long shot). When replacing the switch I did note that the washer hose ends that connect to the switch were a little iffy so I cut a bit off the ends to where I got to good hose. Haven't tried to pressurize it yet but fingers crossed I'll have a working washer soon.

Spent some time chasing my tail on a "problem" that I don't think is really a problem after all; thought I had done something last time I had the bulb holder out to disable the high beam indicator light so I went through a bunch of steps last night trying to get it to work, replaced bulb, bulb holder was a little loose so tightened it up, finally realized it was glowing but just really really dim compared to the other lights. So WTF I got the meter out, checked out the resistance between the bulb socket ground and chassis ground, all good and comparable to the other sockets whose bulbs were glowing brightly.

Then I got my flashlight out and shined it through the back of the fuel gauge itself to verify the lenses, turns out the blue high beam lens is quite a bit darker than the other 3 - the light shines through brightest for the oil and gen lights, little bit less for the parking lights light and the high beam light is noticeably dimmer.

Then I checked power supply to the bulb, the feed wire is just crimped into the connector at the fusebox that runs off to one of the high beam bulbs and then it's a direct short hop up to the back of the bulb holder. Crimp was good, clean tight connectors on both ends, so I'm scratching my head. Put the meter on it and realized that when I activate high beam I'm reading 4.5V at the high beam wire at fusebox. Then I kind of had a duh moment, in that I'm doing this with the engine off so working strictly off the battery. When I activate high beams directly off the battery with the generator not running the load drops the battery voltage down to 4.5 or so, so OF COURSE the light is gonna be dim (battery voltage was 6.2 with no load but by this time I had been dicking around for a couple hours so I probably drained it a little bit). So at this point I just put it all back together and figured I'll try it out with the engine running and generator charging to really verify the brightness of the high beam light. Then I called myself a dumbass.

Good news for all you 6-volters, I ordered bulbs from Wolfsburg West so I'd have spares of everything. On their site they advertise the brake/turn signal bulbs as 6V/18W and the photos on the site show Osram but when I got the bulbs they were all Flosser 6V/21W. Nice! So assuming all connections are in good shape these should be as bright as regular standard 12V/21W bulbs. I decided to put these bulbs in immediately and keep the existing Philips 6V/18W ones that were in the car as spares.

The dual filament park/turn signal bulbs for the front were also Flosser 5W/21W.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody else think they hear a bit of an exhaust leak in this vid? Or am I just being a hypochondriac? Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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t3kg wrote:
Can't see how Bentley would be more authoritative than Volkswagen. Confused


Volkswagen wrote the manual. Bentley just published it in the U.S. Very Happy


Oh, that Bentley. I thought you meant the later one.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anybody else think they hear a bit of an exhaust leak in this vid? Or am I just being a hypochondriac? Very Happy


I think you may have a slight leak. I'd check all the connections and listen/look carefully to see if you can locate a source.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anybody else think they hear a bit of an exhaust leak in this vid? Or am I just being a hypochondriac? Very Happy


I think you may have a slight leak. I'd check all the connections and listen/look carefully to see if you can locate a source.


yep. sounds before the muffler to me, so check the connections at the head
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, I'll check 'em out. I feel like my most likely candidates are the two lower joints of the muffler to heat exchangers.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a common leak point, especially with those compressed wire gaskets you get in muffler installation kits these days. You may even be able to see evidence of the leak there. The old asbestos rings sealed a lot better.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woohoo look what showed up in the mail today!

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Handy dandy VW service wrench by Elora, 17mm hex on one end (for the transaxle) and 21mm box end on the other for the generator pulley nut. Apparently this has been discontinued by Elora and there are "limited" supplies remaining so let me know if you want to grab one and want to know where I got it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I filled up the washer tank and crossed my fingers while I pressurized it at the local gas station. It works! and it's not dribbling on the floor inside the car either. Very Happy

Put the new horn on today, I got it from Wolfsburg West, nothing fancy, just a disc horn but it's a Flosser Italian-made compared to the one that was on it, which I think was the CIP1 cheapie. Definitely louder now which will be helpful though it still has the meep sound.

Despite my long-winded rant about the high beam indicator light, it turns out to be a problem after all. It is lighting but it's extremely dim - you really have to be completely in the dark to see that it's lighting up. The high beam light that it feeds off of works fine so I'm going to have to get the meter out again and do some more serious troubleshooting.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Despite my long-winded rant about the high beam indicator light, it turns out to be a problem after all. It is lighting but it's extremely dim - you really have to be completely in the dark to see that it's lighting up. The high beam light that it feeds off of works fine so I'm going to have to get the meter out again and do some more serious troubleshooting.


You might find this article from the Type 34 Registry website helpful:
http://www.type34.com/library/25-technical-electrical/529-88
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that, I'll give it a look. I seem to recall when I looked at the car at Keith's before buying that the indicator worked and he backs that up when I asked him about it. I think it stopped working after the first time I pulled the bulb holder off to inspect what was going on with the fuel gauge lamp (only to find it was a burned out bulb). But electrically I don't know what I could have done to it; the bulb socket is tight, the wire that provides power to the light is tight, two different good bulbs, same result.

I did note, as the article says, that the lens for the high beam indicator is noticeably dimmer when I put a flashlight up to the back compared to the others but I don't understand why it should suddenly get dimmer if the blue tape is the culprit. I will definitely add that though to my troubleshooting process. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When my 64 was still 6 volt, I bought LEDs for the dash lights because I didn't think any of the bulbs were all that bright. The blue film isn't an issue for the LED bulbs and I like the idea of not having to replace bulbs all that often - especially when they're in an undesirable location.

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Not that you'll want to pull that gauge cluster out again... Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ataraxia wrote:
When my 64 was still 6 volt, I bought LEDs for the dash lights because I didn't think any of the bulbs were all that bright. The blue film isn't an issue for the LED bulbs and I like the idea of not having to replace bulbs all that often - especially when they're in an undesirable location.

http://auto-hub.com/type-3/

Not that you'll want to pull that gauge cluster out again... Smile


do the illumination lights dim?
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's project was to see if I could fix the pulling right under braking condition that was happening with the front brakes.

I found a couple sets of re-lined front shoes in the Samba classifieds so I picked those up and they arrived the other day.

Pulled the drums off today, no obvious issues. The only weirdness was on the right side (the side it was pulling toward). The rearmost wheel cylinder had a lot of brake dust stuck to it and it was even a bit wet, almost like a paste. I thought maybe the wheel cylinder was leaking but I pulled the seal up to have a look and it was dry with no evidence of leakage.

Here's what I found:

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The shoes on both sides looked good, no signs of contamination or anything. On both sides though they did have this groove in the middle:

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The new shoes didn't have a groove in the center. Hit everything with some brake cleaner; re-assembled the adjusters with anti-seize, and put it all back together:

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The initial adjustment was a comedy of errors as I would adjust the shoes out until the drums were binding, then go pump the brakes and they'd all be loose again. Did this a few times until I finally got the adjustment dialed in.

The verdict? It stops straight as an arrow now! Must have been an issue with the old shoes.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always figured that the cylinder with the most crud was the shoe doing the most work...which would explain your issue in some regard.

Good to hear the fix was simple.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ataraxia wrote:
I always figured that the cylinder with the most crud was the shoe doing the most work...which would explain your issue in some regard.

Good to hear the fix was simple.


True, there was a lot more brake dust in general inside that drum. I just don't know what the deal was with those shoes as they were the same side-to-side and no obvious issues. But whatever, it works now. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:07 am    Post subject: Installing Reverse Lights - Help Needed Reply with quote

I picked up one of those NOS Bosch reverse light kits, with the switch that mounts on the transaxle's nose cone and the operating lever that mounts on the shift rod. I tried to install this yesterday but I got hung up on step 1.

To power the switch, you run a wire from the fuse box down under the edge of the mat and then through the rear kick panel with the brake line into the under-rear-seat area. Then the instructions say to pass the wire through the grommet with the brake line and this is somehow supposed to get the wire into the tunnel so you can get power to the switch at the shift rod coupler.

Well, as far as I can tell, the brake line doesn't go into the tunnel at all, it seems to run from the under-seat area through its own passage and comes out under the car pretty far to the left of the tunnel where there's a T connection for the hard lines to the left and right wheels. I tried feeding the wire through there but no luck.

So what am I missing? Can you in fact get the wire into the tunnel from the hole for the brake hard line? Is there another way to get the wire into the tunnel short of drilling a hole? Is there another route I can take to get the wire into the tunnel?

I looked at the voltage regulator wiring but it looks like it goes through a harness between the inner and outer fenders so that's not gonna work. I also looked at the main battery cable but Keith had replaced that with a gigantic welding cable (no starting issues here!) so I don't think I could physically fit this little wire through the grommet with it. Very Happy

The instruction sheet was in German but I ran it through Google Translate which seemed to do a pretty good job. The relevant portions:

2) Connect the black wire from the harness to fuse No. 1 (terminal 15) with plug distributor. Cable installation (see Figure 4) downwards, under the mats edge to the rear and front of the partition wall to the center of the frame tunnel. Remove the rear seat and pull cable along the brake pipe through the partition.

3) From the vehicle underside of the lid frame tunnel Unscrew, pull out the black wire end and connect to the reversing light switch.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I abandoned this project yesterday when it was late and it became clear that I was missing something.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: Installing Reverse Lights - Help Needed Reply with quote

sjbartnik wrote:
I picked up one of those NOS Bosch reverse light kits, with the switch that mounts on the transaxle's nose cone and the operating lever that mounts on the shift rod. I tried to install this yesterday but I got hung up on step 1.

To power the switch, you run a wire from the fuse box down under the edge of the mat and then through the rear kick panel with the brake line into the under-rear-seat area. Then the instructions say to pass the wire through the grommet with the brake line and this is somehow supposed to get the wire into the tunnel so you can get power to the switch at the shift rod coupler.

Well, as far as I can tell, the brake line doesn't go into the tunnel at all, it seems to run from the under-seat area through its own passage and comes out under the car pretty far to the left of the tunnel where there's a T connection for the hard lines to the left and right wheels. I tried feeding the wire through there but no luck.

So what am I missing? Can you in fact get the wire into the tunnel from the hole for the brake hard line? Is there another way to get the wire into the tunnel short of drilling a hole? Is there another route I can take to get the wire into the tunnel?

I looked at the voltage regulator wiring but it looks like it goes through a harness between the inner and outer fenders so that's not gonna work. I also looked at the main battery cable but Keith had replaced that with a gigantic welding cable (no starting issues here!) so I don't think I could physically fit this little wire through the grommet with it. Very Happy

The instruction sheet was in German but I ran it through Google Translate which seemed to do a pretty good job. The relevant portions:

2) Connect the black wire from the harness to fuse No. 1 (terminal 15) with plug distributor. Cable installation (see Figure 4) downwards, under the mats edge to the rear and front of the partition wall to the center of the frame tunnel. Remove the rear seat and pull cable along the brake pipe through the partition.

3) From the vehicle underside of the lid frame tunnel Unscrew, pull out the black wire end and connect to the reversing light switch.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I abandoned this project yesterday when it was late and it became clear that I was missing something.


Without drilling a hole, you won't get inside the tunnel.

On another thought, why couldn't you pull power from the coil + wire (#15) like the late models do? Then you really wouldn't have to do any drilling of the tunnel (an possibly hit a fuel line).
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