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EeVeeWee Samba Member
Joined: April 02, 2015 Posts: 836 Location: Amersfoort, Netherlands
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 6:52 am Post subject: Swedish registration? |
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Can someone read Swedish here
Is this an original Swedish registration at September 9th, 1955 of my Oval?
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blacksheep214 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Looks legit..
First owner was a carpenter, the second one (April 1957) also. |
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Kjell Roar Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:11 am Post subject: |
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That was a really early 56 year model! Probably made the day after #1.000.000, or the same day I got 1-0929775, it was made the day before #1.000.000, and they made 6-700 cars a day at the time.
What is your body number?
_________________ I got a historic car, every scratch got a history...
My car, Aug. 4th, 1955 / an early 56: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=610438 |
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My57Oval Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Humm. I don't get it. 1,000,000 minus 929,775 equals 70,225.
70,225 divided by 700 cars per day would mean it would take another 100 days to got from chassis # 929775 to chassis# 1000000. Right?
So neither of these these cars would have been built a day before or a day after #1,000,000. Not that it's a big deal either way.
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Hellberg Samba Member
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EeVeeWee Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Kjell Roar wrote: |
That was a really early 56 year model! Probably made the day after #1.000.000, or the same day I got 1-0929775, it was made the day before #1.000.000, and they made 6-700 cars a day at the time.
What is your body number?
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The VIN is 1-0930953:
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My57Oval Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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69,000 units before the 1 millionth right? I wonder who has, or if 999,999 or 1,000,001 is still out there. |
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vanagonswede Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 51 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hi!
You could read a lot from that paper.
You got the chassienumber on the upper right corner on the paper.
It also says that the car came to Scania-wabis in Södertälje in august of 55. The car was controlled in Södertälje 26 of august 1955 by a man named Gösta Nilsson. Controlled i mean that the paper of the car and the chassienumber on the car matched.
The 3 of september 1955 a man called Ivar Karl Arne Nilsson bought the car.
Since he lived in Lidköping the car got a licenseplate with a letter R in the beginning. Upper left corner. Says R 30921
In the old days when we got another style of licenseplate you could see where in Sweden the car came from. R says skaraborgs län. I Think you could translate Län to county.
Where i live we had plates with the letter H in the beginning. Meaning the car was from Kalmar Län.
That would say that if i bougth the car from Ivar Nilsson and moved it to my hometown in Kalmar it should have a new numberplate with the letter H in the beginning. There was 24 different combinations of letters.
The 24 of april 1957 Ivar Nilsson sold the car to Gunnar Johansson. He lived in Lidköping aswell so the car could have the same licenseplate.
On the lower right i think you could see when the car did the yearly control. A safety control. I´m not sure but i think ASB means Svensk Bilprovning. Maybe some one else could tell us if i´m right.
I don´t know if you could get some more paper from Sweden on the car. I have paper of my car similar to this, that state all the former owners of my car.
Hope you all could understand what i´m saying here because it´s not always easy to write in English.
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My57Oval Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Your English is fine and you made perfect sense. |
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EeVeeWee Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Your English is perfect for me, thank you very much!
I made the pic's larger in the first post now.
Here are some more papers, but they seem to be recent:
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Porsche904 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:55 am Post subject: |
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EeVeeWee wrote: |
Your English is perfect for me, thank you very much!
I made the pic's larger in the first post now.
Here are some more papers, but they seem to be recent:
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The first paper says bilprøvning, means car gets checked trough the authorities, it says godkänd and means roadworthy.
And the second one is the swedish title with chassisno. and weight aso. |
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Tempie Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Maybe we want to see your car now _________________ When a deluxe is not enough.... you go standard
Early 55 standard sunroof
Visit the Standard Split and Oval Beetle group!!
VW Standard Split and Oval Beetle |
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EeVeeWee Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Tempie wrote: |
Maybe we want to see your car now |
Yes you're right, why not
There even is a Swedish spare tire (forbidden in the Netherlands) and a manual pump on the dashboard for window cleaning. Is this also typical Swedish?
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My57Oval Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Beautiful car. I really like the color. You can ship it to me if you get tired of it!
Rob |
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EeVeeWee Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:11 am Post subject: |
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rkeyworth wrote: |
Beautiful car. I really like the color. You can ship it to me if you get tired of it!
Rob |
Yes but I just got it |
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Kjell Roar Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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rkeyworth wrote: |
Humm. I don't get it. 1,000,000 minus 929,775 equals 70,225.
70,225 divided by 700 cars per day would mean it would take another 100 days to got from chassis # 929775 to chassis# 1000000. Right?
So neither of these these cars would have been built a day before or a day after #1,000,000. Not that it's a big deal either way.
Rob |
They made some T2's also, and some other stuff, so you have to add them to get the total.
They celebrated the #1.000.000 on the 5. august 1955 with 140.000 guests in Wolfsburg. They started building the 56 year model on the 4. august, first was 1-0929746. I once red the "real" chassinumber on the #1.000.000, its about 1000 numbers higher than mine. And that sounds right with 6-700 cars a day, as the millonth car went off the assemblyline on friday after dinner.
So I think your car was closer to the millionth car, than mine, but buildt the next working day, think they stopped the production to celebrate.
You got a really nice car _________________ I got a historic car, every scratch got a history...
My car, Aug. 4th, 1955 / an early 56: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=610438
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blacksheep214 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:24 am Post subject: |
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EeVeeWee wrote: |
Tempie wrote: |
Maybe we want to see your car now |
Yes you're right, why not
There even is a Swedish spare tire (forbidden in the Netherlands) and a manual pump on the dashboard for window cleaning. Is this also typical Swedish?
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You have a really nice ride - thanks for sharing!
Spiked tires were mandatory in winter in all the scandinavian countries back then. They are still used in wintertime, especially by those of us living outside the main cities |
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My57Oval Samba Member
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vanagonswede Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Hi again!
I have missed this a couple of days.
Beautiful car. Original is hard to beat. Very nice.
There is a new "besiktningsprotoll" means yearly controlpaper.
We could make something out of that historywise.
In the old paper we got a last stamp on the yearly Control that says 25 of januari 1973.
Since we know that the old licenseplatenumber was going to disappear from 72 untill the change was all completed in 1974. We could guess that this is the last controll with the old licenseplate.
R 30921 will disappear.
Maybe the same time with the controll at ASB. Maybe they controlled the car and later on send the new licenseplate to the owner.
I don´t know, i was 12 years at that time. Hadn´t even bought my own first vw at that time:D
The new "Besiktningsprotokoll" says a couple of things to us.
We got a new licenseplatenumber. FBS 331.
We got something weird going on.
It says "tidigare besiktning 730131" means previously control 31 of januari 1973.
But on the previous paper it says controlled at 25 of january 1973.
Maybe the car didn´t pass the Control and was fixed and there was a new control on the 31 of january.
Maybe it´s just some person that thought it doesn´t matter if it says the right date on the paper. It´s a very common thing in the old days.
We have within a month to fix the car if it´s not passing the control. After the repair we have to control it again. If we don´t repair and have it controlled within a months time it´s illegal to drive the car.
Maybe he repaired the car and controlled it again on the 31 of january.
The new "besiktingsprotokoll" says controlled at 29 of july 1997.
It says it was controlled in Skara on the paper. This says the car was still at the same county in Sweden as before. But we don´t know if it´s the same owner still.
The paper even says "vägmätarställning" meaning the car has been rolling 24344 km. Has it spun around maybe? Or is it the real distance, in that case, congratulations.
But on the other hand, it hasn´t been driven for a number of years.
What has happened under these years?
The second paper is just the backside off the controlpaper just explaining things about the control.
The third paper is the new identity-paper on the car.
We all know now what is says.
Here on the fourth paper, the backside of the identity-paper we got some very interesting information again.
It says "avställd 970922"
It means they put the car away.
Here in Sweden you could take the car and tell the government you don´t want to drive it anymore. Under this time you don´t have to pay insurance or taxes for it.
You park the car under the appeltree in the garden and watch it sink deeper and deeper into the lawn.
Until a guy from the netherlands comes and rescue it.
We know that this car had been driven between 1966 till 1973.
I don´t know why it doesn´s say anything about the time 56-66. Maybe there wasn´t any control of the cars then. Maybe the local gasstation took a look at the car.
What happend between 1973 and 1997?
Why did they controlled the car in 1997 and put it away again 2 months later?
I Think you have a leathal car. You better give it to me for your own safety.
I don´t want you to risk your life, driving that car.
The tire is as they say just a normal winter-tire. totally worn out. The windshieldwasher is rather common. I got one on my 57.
It had been fun to look at this but it would be even more fun to know more about the cars history. There has to be more receipts when the car changed owners and other paperwork.
Who did the job on the car?
In the old days many cars were just parked somewhere when people bought a new car. Vw didn´t cost anything at all. I don´t know how many cars i got for free from relatives and friends under the 80´s.
In the 80´s, i Think it was, there was a massive cleaning in the country by the government.
They tried to scrap all old cars that stood in the nature and people were told to turn them in to the junkyard.
Thousends of vw disappered
A horrible time!
Hope this has helped you with some of the history of the car. This is what i could figure out of the papers.
Congratulations again to a Beautiful car. |
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EeVeeWee Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 7:12 am Post subject: |
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I Think you have a leathal car. You better give it to me for your own safety.
I don´t want you to risk your life, driving that car. Wink |
That is very kind of you, but i'll just try to drive it very carefully some times
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It says "avställd 970922"
It means they put the car away.
Here in Sweden you could take the car and tell the government you don´t want to drive it anymore. Under this time you don´t have to pay insurance or taxes for it.
You park the car under the appeltree in the garden and watch it sink deeper and deeper into the lawn. |
We have the same possibility here in the Netherlands, but because it is (far) more than 40 years old I don't have to pay tax anymore and because it's from before 1960 I don't even have to let it check (APK in dutch, MOT in English) every two years.
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In the 80´s, i Think it was, there was a massive cleaning in the country by the government.
They tried to scrap all old cars that stood in the nature and people were told to turn them in to the junkyard. |
I think in the whole world, so that's the reason they are quite rare these days and so expensive.
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Hope this has helped you with some of the history of the car. This is what i could figure out of the papers.
Congratulations again to a Beautiful car. |
Thank you very very much, I really appreciate that you share your findings!
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