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| OK, he found these numbers in the engine bay:VW-2-22-1850-950 |
2-22 means it is a Standard Microbus (Type 22)
It sounds like you just read the left side of the plate.
Look for the number in the upper right next to "Fahrgestell-Nr."- that is the VIN #.
It may be harder to read as it is stamped instead of cast in like the other letters and numbers.
Here's a 1956 Panelvan example so you know where to look:
In this example, 187039 is the VIN #
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Nice!
Can you post the first three digits of the bus? It maybe a Wolfsburge made bus! |
What makes you think it might be a Wolfsburg bus? |
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CaLiBus
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Nice!
Can you post the first three digits of the bus? It maybe a Wolfsburge made bus! |
What makes you think it might be a Wolfsburg bus? |
All buses prior to March of 56 were built at the historical Wolfsburg plant. Practically hand built on a bench before they were put on the assembly line.  |
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| Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| OK, he found these numbers in the engine bay:VW-2-22-1850-950-1600. Under the plaque: 212076 |
looks like a 1956 micorbus with VIN 212076.
That VIN means it is a Hanover buildt bus.
It would have been two tone Palm green Sand green back in the day with 3 rows of seats Soft Green interior and cloth headliner. There is a thread on that color bus.
What does the owner wants to do?
Some people want to camp and don't want the three rows of seats.
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Now it's red and the owner hates the color but can't afford a paint job. He also can't afford the extra seats which I assume would cost a small fortune to buy, if they could be found at all. He loves the idea of built-ins so maybe I'll volunteer to help him convert it to a camper. Or maybe a really scaled down version would make more sense. I think his budget is about $0 and I'm willing to help build it but can't foot the bill. Too bad, that sand green 2-tone paint is the best.
Thanks for the info! |
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Posted for sale in the classifides in 3...2....1..... 
FISH ON!
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| Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Believe me, if he was ever going to sell it, I'd be first in line. But his late father left it to him and I hope he and the bus grow old together. |
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| CaLiBus wrote: |
| vancec wrote: |
| CaLiBus wrote: |
Nice!
Can you post the first three digits of the bus? It maybe a Wolfsburge made bus! |
What makes you think it might be a Wolfsburg bus? |
All buses prior to March of 56 were built at the historical Wolfsburg plant. Practically hand built on a bench before they were put on the assembly line. |
Your history lesson is a bit off concerning how they were made. They were on a assembly line since the beginning of PRODUCTION |
What I meant by "hand built" before they hit the assembly line..
So what your saying is not entirely true.
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| CaLiBus wrote: |
| slow36hp wrote: |
| CaLiBus wrote: |
| vancec wrote: |
| CaLiBus wrote: |
Nice!
Can you post the first three digits of the bus? It maybe a Wolfsburge made bus! |
What makes you think it might be a Wolfsburg bus? |
All buses prior to March of 56 were built at the historical Wolfsburg plant. Practically hand built on a bench before they were put on the assembly line. |
Your history lesson is a bit off concerning how they were made. They were on a assembly line since the beginning of PRODUCTION |
What I meant by "hand built" before they hit the assembly line..
So what your saying is not entirely true.
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you do realize this is a photo of people working on the assembly line.....assembling parts together in the step by step process of assembling a bus (the same as was done later at Hannover). it would be interesting to know if even the prototype for the non barndoor was made ( "by hand before being put on a assembly line" ) at the historical wolfsburg plant as earlier models seemed to be done offsite at coach houses?
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| CaLiBus wrote: |
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| CaLiBus wrote: |
| vancec wrote: |
| CaLiBus wrote: |
Nice!
Can you post the first three digits of the bus? It maybe a Wolfsburge made bus! |
What makes you think it might be a Wolfsburg bus? |
All buses prior to March of 56 were built at the historical Wolfsburg plant. Practically hand built on a bench before they were put on the assembly line. |
Your history lesson is a bit off concerning how they were made. They were on a assembly line since the beginning of PRODUCTION |
What I meant by "hand built" before they hit the assembly line..
So what your saying is not entirely true.
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you do realize this is a photo of people working on the assembly line.....assembling parts together in the step by step process of assembling a bus (the same as was done later at Hannover). it would be interesting to know if even the prototype for the non barndoor was made ( "by hand before being put on a assembly line" ) at the historical wolfsburg plant as earlier models seemed to be done offsite at coach houses? |
I see what your saying but your missing the point as far as Wolfburg being more hands on in craftsmanship in comparison to post Wolfsburg buses. Call me a wierdo but It's guys like me that do appreciate the pioneer era of VW assembly. |
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I see what your saying but your missing the point as far as Wolfburg being more hands on in craftsmanship in comparison to post Wolfsburg buses. Call me a wierdo but It's guys like me that do appreciate the pioneer era of VW assembly. |
pioneer era? please.. Vw's were being assembled BEFORE and DURING the war in large amounts, i.e. mass production. If you have a hard on for the 'hand built craftsmanship' of early VW's then you need to be fixated on the aforementioned production eras. By the time VolkswagenWerk was in production of buses (1950) they had a massive production and assembly line factory. When the factory moved to Hannover, it was obviously updated as time had passed. There really is no evidence of any more 'assembled by hand' work on a Wolfsburg 1955 and a Hannover 1956.
please review the factory photos threads, they show the production lines.
your obsession with "wolfy" buses (and their perceived superiority) is very evident in this forum.
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I see what your saying but your missing the point as far as Wolfburg being more hands on in craftsmanship in comparison to post Wolfsburg buses. Call me a wierdo but It's guys like me that do appreciate the pioneer era of VW assembly. |
pioneer era? please.. Vw's were being assembled BEFORE and DURING the war in large amounts, i.e. mass production. If you have a hard on for the 'hand built craftsmanship' of early VW's then you need to be fixated on the aforementioned production eras. By the time VolkswagenWerk was in production of buses (1950) they had a massive production and assembly line factory. When the factory moved to Hannover, it was obviously updated as time had passed. There really is no evidence of any more 'assembled by hand' work on a Wolfsburg 1955 and a Hannover 1956.
please review the factory photos threads, they show the production lines.
your obsession with "wolfy" buses (and their perceived superiority) is very evident in this forum. |
Ok dude.. Your taking this way far with.. "Obsession", "perceived superiority" . What's next?.. Scud missile nipples??? Oh please do tell..
Just my opinion obviously wether large or small of production. |
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| slow36hp wrote: |
| CaLiBus wrote: |
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| CaLiBus wrote: |
| vancec wrote: |
| CaLiBus wrote: |
Nice!
Can you post the first three digits of the bus? It maybe a Wolfsburge made bus! |
What makes you think it might be a Wolfsburg bus? |
All buses prior to March of 56 were built at the historical Wolfsburg plant. Practically hand built on a bench before they were put on the assembly line. |
Your history lesson is a bit off concerning how they were made. They were on a assembly line since the beginning of PRODUCTION |
What I meant by "hand built" before they hit the assembly line..
So what your saying is not entirely true.
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you do realize this is a photo of people working on the assembly line.....assembling parts together in the step by step process of assembling a bus (the same as was done later at Hannover). it would be interesting to know if even the prototype for the non barndoor was made ( "by hand before being put on a assembly line" ) at the historical wolfsburg plant as earlier models seemed to be done offsite at coach houses? |
I see what your saying but your missing the point as far as Wolfburg being more hands on in craftsmanship in comparison to post Wolfsburg buses. Call me a wierdo but It's guys like me that do appreciate the pioneer era of VW assembly. |
am I the only one who sees the actual assembly line to the left in the pic?
the guys in the front of the pic are assembling parts to be put on the buses that are going down the line the same way car factories still do things today
I think the impression that Wolfsburg buses are hand built is because it was a huge transition period with changes happening on a weekly basis which to the less educated on the subject could look like one guy building his buses one way and another guy building his slightly different IMO
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it would appear all of the bodies are fixtured moving from jig to jig (on the assembly line) using carts cranes and conveyors or people most likely depending where they are at in the assembly process (line) and their weight.
looking at the line on the same day from a differant angle you can see the door pillars and long sides parts enter the line as shown in the first pic of the guy with the toch and at the other end of the line long sides are moved by hand and cart further down the line. if you look even further you see a body in the jig like the first picture.
the notion that a car company that by 1956 had built over 160,000 buses and in 56 was doing around 250 buses a day scrabbled together off of tables is a sentimental notion. even if a change happened every week that would be 1250 buses between changes
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What's next?.. Scud missile nipples??? Oh please do tell..
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you completely lost me with this rebuttal. 
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Now it's red and the owner hates the color but can't afford a paint job. He also can't afford the extra seats which I assume would cost a small fortune to buy, if they could be found at all. He loves the idea of built-ins so maybe I'll volunteer to help him convert it to a camper. Or maybe a really scaled down version would make more sense. I think his budget is about $0 and I'm willing to help build it but can't foot the bill. Too bad, that sand green 2-tone paint is the best.
Thanks for the info! |
What does the owner want to do with the bus? Any pics? Does it run and drive?
Many people don't like the way an old bus drives. I fell in love, but not everyone feels the same way. And it is unsafe at any speed, according to Nader.
I had someone scoff at me in a parking lot as I locked up my bus "That look soooo annoying.. actually having to put the key in the locks."
Does he drive stick shift?
Does he even want to camp?
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What's next?.. Scud missile nipples??? Oh please do tell..
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you completely lost me with this rebuttal. |
^^^
So what does "hard on" mean anyway?
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